Cordova: Parks and Rec Commission Meeting 9.29.2026

Welcome to the Cordova City Parks and Recreation meeting for September 28th, 2026. I'd like to call the meeting to order at 6:03. Apologies for the tardiness, which was Entirely on me. Could I please get a roll call? Absolutely.

Erin Cole? Here. Jim French? Here. Gabby Brown?

Cara Rodriguez? Here. Kelsey Hayden? Here. Danny Carpenter?

Gracely? Here. Excellent. Hopefully everyone had a review— chance to review. The minutes from our previous meeting, which I did prior to arriving.

But is there an extra packet sitting around by chance? I missed it. Um, so if you've had a chance to review— thank you— the previous meeting's minutes, could I get a motion to approve them? Motion to approve the minutes from the July 28th, 2026 regular meeting. Second that.

Thank you. Motion Seconded. This is our opportunity to take communication from visitors if the audience would like to comment about the coming agenda items. Welcome to the meeting. Happy to have you here.

Hi. Thank you.

And we will have another opportunity for comments from the audience um, at the end of the meeting as well.

Thank you, Chris. Um, well, this brings us to our lovely Director's Report. Hi everyone. First, I want to say thank you for You know, the meeting, I just sent out the directors report last month. I had to take it in promptu— for last August.

Everything's going quickly. Promptu means it's in family. So, yeah, it was just a good opportunity. And so I took it. So, that.

So, first, I do want to say that there's a few people that have terms coming up in November, and I want to just let you guys know, not keeping track of it. So, Kara, you're one, and Erin, another. If you want to resubmit to be on the commission, talk to Susan and that'll happen. You'll get put back on. And then if we have a lot of people that apply, then that will go to the city council.

Okay, so great job with that. So I just want to make sure that everyone's aware of that. Last year was— so So the commission terms. So I'm just going to kind of go right into some stuff that I wanted to talk about. I thought that I was going to have Skater's Cabin budget all wrapped up and some nice pictures of it, have all the pictures and all the information from Alaska Insulated Panels.

I talked to them today. It's going to be a couple more days till they actually get a firm cost amount of it, which would not include any groundwork down west over there. So it'll just be for the pulling and shipping it. So, at least we'll have those numbers. So the next meeting, we will have the skater's cabin, at least what, you know, they have provided for us for that.

So, also with skater's cabin, I wanted to say how amazing it is. You'll see in there that we have— I want to be pretty accurate with this, but I'm jumping around, but $5,656 left of that grant match. So up to $20,000. So, I want to just give a quick shout out to Kathy, Kathy Dixon Sherman, who just donated $1,000 towards it. So every dollar that's spent, it doubles right now.

So, donated to it. So we're super excited about that. Right now we're going into the budget. And it's going to be a rough year again this year. So we're already looking at '27.

I submitted first round budgets this morning. We're already been asked not to do anything above the BLM float we did last year. I did add some extra things in there that I think that we really need. I will be asking for more temp staff funding to support our programs. I have asked for travel.

It's something that we need. It was cut last year. We need to go away and get certified for different things. And so cutting that is just and ongoing education, that sort of thing. So I am gonna— there's a few things that I'm ready to, you know, we need to fight for that got taken out last year.

So while that's being said, I am very aware of the budget constraints of the entire city itself right now. So working through that with the team members is key, with Cheryl and Sam. Yeah, we're gonna make it through, but it's already looking— I hate the word bleak, but it's been a rough year for Salmon, as everyone knows. Oh, let's see.

So that goes into our conversations about potential reduction in facility hours. Right now we are at our max at the pool with hours with the temp budget funding that we have. And Bidarki's temp staff funding is already— it's— we're almost at the max on that. So we get about $35,000 a year for temp staff at Bidarki and $25,000 for the pool. That supports the swim teams and the school program too.

So not just our recreation programs.

So we started Fun Friday and after-school punch passes. So you'll see those roll out too, where it does cost $5 to go to after-school pool and $5 to go to Fun Friday, which is supervised. And it's an easier way. It will just be like our 20 punch that parents can buy that we can scan. And I hope that solves some kind of, you know, some issues with kids not having money to do it when they show up.

So we'll see those. And I mean, let's talk about the big news, the pool opening, which has been amazing. And yeah, there's really no words for it. It's been a long 16 months. I just want to say thank you to the staff.

There's so many people behind this. So many hard conversations have happened just supporting the pool. I will say it's day to day right now with boiler, both the boiler at the pool and boiler at the darkie right now. So the boiler at the darkie is out, the pool is out, we're resetting it every day. We know what the issue is and shipping is an issue right now.

So we're waiting for the part to come in. It should resolve the day to day resetting of the pool. We are fitting into it a new burner with the funds from our budget amendment that we had. The new burner is about $24,000 for it. So that's been an ongoing issue this year.

We can only set the pool boiler at one mode and we need— we have 3. We need to be able to set it on to have it working. So that will help out. We're just getting quotes for that now. So, and then Caliber Mechanical will come in and install it.

So yeah, great things at the pool. I was down there yesterday, saw the kids in the pool for school swim and they just, again, no words. It's great to see. See everybody in there. So, um, and our October schedule for the pool and the darkie will be out tomorrow.

Uh, it's going to be pretty similar. Um, again, right now what we're doing at the pool is more than what we actually can budget for, which is on me. Um, if anything, we have to have reduction in hours on it. So if I get a lot of outpouring that we want more rec swim or we want something else, it means cutting something else on the other end of it, if that makes sense. So we have to have rec swim on a different day than we're cutting on Friday or something like that to make that happen.

So yeah, a lot of tough decisions for that. So 'Cause on top of that, we want to support the school and the swim teams too.

Um, we already talked about Skater's Cabin. Uh, the master plan is coming along. You'll see probably the month of October, Corbus Design is gonna do a community, um, session and roll out what we— the master plan, the final master plan. Um, so there'll be a few conversations about that, but it will be in October. We're gonna put it out there.

I'm very excited about it with the concept designs for the facility. So it's very exciting to see all that happening. And then once that's finished, completed, stamp on it, we can start looking for grants. Or early facility. So, um, that's the question.

Yeah, absolutely. Um, is that gonna be something available public? Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

Yeah. At the at the DARKE facility, or, or available to the public? Oh, to like just view? Like, are you presenting this? Oh yeah, it'll be presented to like everyone we invited to.

Oh yeah, so the community will, and I encourage everyone to come and, and take a look at it. We work pretty hard on it. Sure. Um, there's a lot of thought behind it, I will say that. Like, what Kim was just saying is a community.

Um, but in the past, I don't know if anyone was available here that did, uh, the planning with purpose design originally, but they did have a lot of like community input about what we wanted to see. So, and I'm always, um, open to any feedback. Well, obviously any feedback for that. So, um, let's see. Yeah, so I mean, there's a lot of amazing things going on too with programming and basketball is just really great right now.

Mini Movers has been really great. It's amazing to see all the kids at Bedarthy and to not be able to talk on the phone because the basketballs are so loud. So that's something that I really am like excited about to have that back in. So yeah, open to any questions too. I know there's a lot going on.

There's a lot here. I've been away a lot at different conferences or conferences here. It's been nice to get away. And I went to Whittier. It was great to meet all them.

They're doing wonderful things over there. They have a volunteer parks and rec, which is great. And they're doing simple, really cool things for their community. And Whittier was just— you just— I've only ever gone to the ferry. So it was nice to hike around and meet people, like-minded people.

So. Yeah, any questions, just let me know.

Or, or if you have questions too, it's okay. I totally will answer all of them. I think a lot of questions. I'll try. I was gonna let anybody else go.

Yeah, okay. Um, most of my questions are not actually my questions, they're just questions from people that have talked to me. Yeah. Because I've heard a lot about the pool over the last month and just the availability of when it's open, which I'm sure you have too. Um, some other questions I've gotten is I know that there's two— like you're saying there needs to be two lifeguards, yeah, to keep the pool open.

Uh, they have to be two city-employed lifeguards? No, I'm going to talk to the swim team and I think the school, I think, about that. Yeah, if you're aware about that they don't have to be— we can have volunteer lifeguards for the city. They have to— there's parameters about what a volunteer lifeguard is. Does there have to be like one city lifeguard and one non-city lifeguard?

Yeah. But that non-city lifeguard can't be a coach or teacher? Exactly. You can't coach and teach and lifeguard at the same time. When you run like lap swim and open swim, Are there two sitting lifeguards on the deck, or is one of them in the office?

One of them's in the office. So Taylor, she's not lifeguarding primarily, but when we got lifeguards like Jake, I'm a lifeguard. If we have, we kind of rotate, and then office too if we, if it comes down to that. What is the limitations with that is that we also have other jobs to do. So for me, I like came in and lifeguarded or was there for the, uh, when we couldn't open.

Sorry, I keep using you guys as an example. When we couldn't open for Monday because the boiler went out, we were able to redo that practice the next day. Logan and I came in, I came in at 6 and lifeguarded for them. So things like that are very helpful, I think. You know, I guess follow-up question.

I wonder if like with school swim, swim team, if there's one city lifeguard sitting on deck, And there doesn't have to be somebody in the office because the pool's not open. Is there a reason that we can't be? It's because of— I have a whole list here. Why is retiring 2 lifeguards at Bachman Pool? Sorry, I read the thing in the email.

Yeah, so it's because that's how we're trained here. I mean, there's multiple reasons for it, but it's like, who's gonna— if a lifeguard's jumping in the water after those kids, I mean, it could be so much different, but Who's lifeguarding the rest of the kids that are in there once that lifeguard gets in the water? I mean, there's a lot of different scenarios. It's how we're trained. Yeah, I'm happy to share this information with you.

But you could potentially have one, like, volunteer lifeguard and one city lifeguard. Exactly. They're not coaching or teaching. Right. Yes.

And the city lifeguards, just to be clear, like, so we're asking the same as what we ask of our lifeguards. Which is they need a background check, they need a drug test, and they need to come to in-service training. So we start in-service training monthly. If we can't hold an in-service training, we do like, you know, streamline around or do the 4 hours somehow, which we've had to do in the past. So before, you know, like just for instance, if someone was a volunteer lifeguard and then had no further training about the facility for the 2 years of their lifespan, other circuits.

So you're talking about in-service outside of lifeguard training, right? Exactly. So it's like Red Cross, I guess, is pretty firm on that 4 hours a month. Okay. Um, at your most recent training, did you have some people who did lifeguard training that weren't city employees?

Like the most recent lifeguard training? No, we did focus on city employees for that one because we had we wanted to capture as many as we could. I think that part of these budget cuts has been really hard is that not leaving here for our own certifications. And mine has labs for my lifeguard instructor. So yeah, it's tough.

Like, I need to get my certification done to be able to teach here. So the alternative to that is getting either we have Noe come in and teach too, you know, from, from Juneau, or have an LGI instruction here where other people get trained to be lifeguard instructors too. And I had interest in that, like Jess Pretty's been a lifeguard instructor before, you know, so being able to do it in-house is really nice. Yeah, sure.

Thank you. Okay. The other thing, and this is again come from a lot of people that I've talked to, was looking at the September schedule and you're saying that the October schedule is pretty similar. Yeah. People are really curious why there's 20 hours of lap swim and then there's only 4 hours of open swim.

So for 4 hours of open swim, I have to have an extra lifeguard on. So 3 instead of 2. Yeah, exactly. Instead of the 2, because for instance, last Friday, Tried it where there were 2. I at least have to have 2 lifeguards and someone at the front desk.

That's 50 limit, and that 25 limit for us is a standard around the country for having 1 lifeguard to 25 people. So typically, if we have 2 lifeguards, say, at Rec Swim, it's 25 people in the pool. And that is a hard ask for that. So, you know, like, I don't want to rest on that. We have to capture that.

Yeah, so it's, it's an extra person. It's an extra. Yeah. And again, it can be a volunteer if there's a volunteer that meets those qualifications, you know. But right now, yeah, it's a safety issue.

Yeah. Just wondering if it was offered more often, if it would be less crazy, because I've gone every Friday. That it would probably be less crazy, but I'm not going to say that. We still would have to staff it with 3 people. People.

So that's really what it boils down to.

Uh, on the same note, uh, family time has also been brought up in the morning. So I just did like an outreach with like all the Minnehaha people and did a poll on what time we can do that. Um, I have been very vocal with that too, that it's a 25% minimum for it so that we can accommodate it during the day. Yeah, like, so like on Monday at 10 o'clock, it's the SBC. So you'll see that change.

I think that's probably going to be the only change. Other than that, the Wolverines are going to be swimming on Thursdays instead of Fridays in October to accommodate their schedule of leaving for meets on Fridays. So it's just going to be swapped. Correct me if I'm wrong, Laura. No, no, no.

Yeah, that's right. Yeah. Okay, I think, think lastly, um, this is just something I just realized today. So city holidays and school holidays don't align. So, so what has been really great this year, and I think, you know, we're building up to this, is just the communication between the school, um, and us, you know, that, um, we are so the school, but then when they are going to be renting the pool, the little birdies do too.

Um, and then we say when we're not going to be open too. So we're communicating with what— the more that we can say, um, the school— say the school's not going to be in for a day, and then we can save that. I don't have to schedule people for that day. It saves it on the back end of it. So we're working really hard to save that temp funding.

I mean, in the past it's been like we've just showed up and, you know, the communication hasn't always been there, but we're working really hard on making sure that, um, pools closed the days that we're not there. Um, and I think I had talked with Marcel yesterday about, uh, they came up with a plan for, for that, like, um, with like doing classes on different days just that They gotta make up for the city closure. Yeah. For our culture. Yeah.

And we have enough time for holidays in our home. Yeah, there's like 3 holidays and they've been kind of a thorn for a few years now. So we're only gonna get Mondays probably, huh? Yeah. There's others fall on Mondays and we're gonna skip them once in a while.

So we're out of luck. All right. Lastly, say all the things that I'm excited about. Love the punch card. I'm glad that's happening.

Yeah. It's been awesome to see so many kids and things at Open Swim, and all of my students are like, "Miss Arminius, I saw you at Open Swim!" I'm like, "I know, I know!" And they're all very excited to go swimming tomorrow for school swim. And it was really cool seeing how many kids are participating in basketball. Right now in Jason's group, there's 27 kids that were at the game, and I was like, "Oh my gosh, that's crazy!" Matt Jake is also very excited about it. Yes.

Future of this program. Oh yeah, there's a little seed program happening. Yeah, we had Blaze there this morning. I think he's our youngest. Oh yeah, he's been wanting to do that forever.

Oh yeah. So thank you.

I have a question. Oh gosh, I was in the list. I have a question about The lifeguard. So someone could theoretically go and do the training themselves. Absolutely.

And then come back and be like, hey, I want to volunteer. Yes. And I just need— and this is not— I mean, a lot of these things are not mandated by me either, but I just need to see their certification. And we have to keep it on file in paper form for the life of the certification. Anyone that's lifeguarding at the pool, I know it's very archaic, but the health inspector comes in and they want to see it digitally and on paper.

So those, if they have a certification, I need to do the Red Cross, which is what our training facility is, then, um, yeah, they can do that.

Yeah, I've had a few people that have been certified already, which is like, oh, come on over.

One more question. I know, well, I think that the city employees are all union. So just wondering about in the future possibility of weekend swims ever, or is it all like they have dedicated hours and that they— I have to give them 2 weeks to change their hours. So there are— there's lots of parameters, but you're right, um, it's hard to staff Saturdays. I have a hard time with hierarchy.

Um, I know I can tell, you know, people throw it in my face, hey, you can work on Saturdays. It's all amazing till the sun's shining, and that's temp staffing. And I think they're all amazing, and I want to be outside too. Um, so that's where, like, we still are hopeful for pop-up Saturdays where we just, like, we send out on CivicRec and on our Facebook page and social media that we're having it on rainy days. And that also helps save up funding for temp staff.

So yeah, I'm definitely— I would love to be open for that. Go right now. I'm really just, um, I mean, I know I don't want to be giving them the good stuff, but I'm fighting to keep the hours over having my job open. So that's really the reality of it.

Can you talk a little bit about the school budget? Because it didn't open until 3/4 of the way through the year, so You can't move funds from one line item to temp funds, right? I cannot. And so full budget in the past, and this is Cheryl too, I've talked to her. In the past, the bottom line of a budget has been the bottom line.

So, you know, if you go over on a line, you know, I have a responsibility not to do that, but it happened. We cannot move funds from one line to another. It was voted on by the city to have it in that.

Um, on that line item this year, we're already not doing well as a city because of fish and because of tax revenue not coming in as planned. And so I've been directed that that is not the case this year. We cannot— it's not our bottom line, it is line to line. So the $25,000 that I have for the town budget is the $25,000. It's just not going very far.

So what is the pool budget looking like so far? I think the city had a budget update fairly recently, but I haven't looked at it. I mean, how are we— how are we doing? I would imagine we're under budget on like all the things, but, um, yes, we are. Uh, you know, the temp budget is going to get eaten up pretty quickly.

Um, and, uh, fuel is under. Uh, we are under on the $100,000, um, budget amendment, but I'm trying to get the burner for the boiler and that sort of thing in this year's budget. I have to get it in this year's budget. So that will eat up a lot of that cost. For custodial stuff like that, the smaller line items, we did end up buying, trying to buy things that we thought we needed for that.

But all in all, I feel like the whole budget's doing pretty well. Considering it would have been a lot bigger ask from a lot of these, uh, from contractors that have come in and fixed things. Okay, and next budget question. As we're heading into budget season, it would be super helpful if there was some type of rough numbers of— I mean, I'm not sure what you're asking for in temp funding, but like X amount of temp funding gets us X schedule, it gets 2 rec swims at the pool, or it gets swim team in there 5 days a week, or, you know, scenarios, rough scenarios that are guaranteed. That will be in— I'm actually drawing those up right now, um, because it will be in one of the work sessions that we have for city council.

Because you're right, I think it's great to see those numbers. Like, right now At 25,000, and we're estimating everyone gets paid a certain amount of money. I can already see that we're not going to make it even to the end of this year with 25,000. So, and we just opened. So with the schedule that we have right now, and so I'm looking back at like 2023 when we were open pretty robustly, I would say what that looks like for, for town budgeting.

And, um, yeah, it's just going to be useful. Yeah, I will have those numbers. Yeah, it would be helpful for all of us advocating for, you know, and that goes for with Darkey too right now. Yeah, I think that when things get— I mean, we literally as a staff just got split in half, like, when the pool opened, you know, we're both, I think, I just think everyone involved in this, my, you know, the staff at Parks and Rec has been so supportive of me just running around a lot. But it's that temp funding.

I mean, the funding's different for each facility, but, you know, we could right now say Tegan and Noah were my people at pedarchy, and now they're lifeguarding. So if they're down there lifeguarding, something's going to give up at pedarchy. Because I don't have time finding there either. We're going out of that. So we're getting pulled.

It's great that Noah and Teagan became lifeguards, but I can't backfill their positions now because we're out of time finding up dark. And that pulls down my hours for Bidarki too. So with a lot of staff doing dual purpose, Taylor's in the office at the pool, but maybe she's also working on Bidarki stuff. Wouldn't it be more helpful to kind of shift the budget to like Parks and Rec staff as a whole instead of these separate pool and bidarki buckets? Would that help with temp funding at all with flexibility?

I think the flexibility is fine with it. I think we have a way that we calculate it where that part is fine. I'm just— I think that we don't have enough either place. Yeah, that really is what it boils down to. And if you think of that, the temps at the Darkey help support Jacob's programs.

Um, we have a lot of amazing volunteers, but, um, and then the whole building at Darkey, that's some funding for custodial needs for it, which is a huge thing. So, and they're there after hours, so it's for our high schoolers.

So there's a lot of stuff that happens in Bidarki that I would like to support. May I ask, um, when you went to Whittier, you talked about like a robust volunteer parks and rec. Um, do you see any integration of that in our parks and rec that could be used to— I mean, obviously the pool is bound by— yeah, I've sound money. Yeah, but like within, um, especially Bidarki, I don't know what's allowed within your We have like a lot of great volunteers there. I mean, like even for volleyball or, you know, you guys are cleaning with that, but I'm trying to think of other— basketball.

We just had— we have a volunteer process where people— someone just applied to help volunteer our card— our Magic: The Gathering and Pokémon Club card night. Yep. Card night. Yeah, the card night that we have. So we do have a lot of people that are doing that.

They just have to go through the background check. And just, you know, it helps when people are looking at our activity guides and they'd like to be that. But as far as like to help with it, but as far as closing the darky and not having a staff, there always has to be a staff member there. You know, at night.

It's, you know, there's no other place in the city that's even open, like the library or the center or anything like that. So it has to have a staff member. So sure. What's the difference between using the card reader at the gym without staff being there? Is there certain parts of the gym that are all locked off?

Our office is locked, but it's because, um, we have control over how old people are. Whoever's done the card reader signs a waiver saying so. It's age-based, and all the doors automatically lock pretty late.

But if you go into the gym to work out, can you go upstairs to the gym gym? Yeah, he's also— oh, but you have to be 18. Okay, so those are the way. And if you have a card reader and you're 6, you can't get— they won't let you in the door. Will not let you in the door.

Has that improved? I know, like, it has. Okay, yeah. Okay, yes. That's good.

That's nice. I mean, it is really hard saying no to things like that, but it's very dangerous for the kids to be there. And all parents are creative people, and, um, I love all the kids, but opening the door and letting like 11 kids in therapy and shutting it for those for a reason is not how I— so yeah, unfortunately.

But like a group of 18-year-olds could just go up and use the gym if there was no staff in the building? Yes. Oh, so how is that like when with open gym volleyball and things, like I know it's been closing or ending earlier, if those people are— is that because there's people there that aren't using Cardinal? Right. Yes.

And obviously don't have their waivers on. So last year, you guys remind me, don't you, um, Anyone that was a member that stayed, we just locked the door and you guys left, right? So for a while, I go, I can lock the front door. Yeah, we acted like it was like you guys have been in there. Yeah, yeah.

And honestly, I mean, I think there's like maybe one or two kids that were underage and they were being asked to leave. Yeah, so But not necessarily consistently. And I know to monitor AdaCloud, I was not as consistent with that. We're trying. We're trying to come up with something.

Yeah. But really, at the end of the day, it's a budget shortfall. So it is like, we can say, oh, we can come up with this plan or that plan. Really, I can't say this enough, but advocating for these programs that You know, we live and breathe them, and some people don't. So it's nice to just talk about them too.

I think— I don't think people understand it does all come back to numbers. It all circles back to that. Like, it's not just people. The reason we don't have necessarily enough people is because there's not enough money to fund people in these positions. So I, I do like the idea of having that, like this much money equals this.

I think people value— yeah, yeah, it's like time equals money, you know. So what do you get for that? That might be a really good way to illustrate it. Yeah. And again, it's like in the past, I think— I don't like going back in the past, but it hasn't been so regulated with that.

Um, I, I do take it really seriously, um, because I need to. Um, I want to make sure that everyone gets a chance to have to enjoy things. Everyone has, you know, that has memberships should have a chance to come in and use the facilities. So I do take that very seriously. Good.

Just to add on that, the equipment though is still locked up, right? Like I couldn't come because I have a membership and get out basketball rack. You'd have to bring your own things, right? The basketballs are always out. Okay.

Um, actually, Kassidy gave me a great idea for basketball. Hoop. Oh, you get outdoor goggles? Yes, we're going to get that. So a smaller basketball hoop, that's about baller size.

Um, I mean, but, uh, you know, so that, uh, that we have more— I mean, I know kids can't come in at that time, but that we, um, we just have more offerings during, like, after school, if we're Even during the day, there is some group events that are going on and they can play basketball, a small group, not a mini group. Okay. Something a little smaller. Like the one at Monacles. Yeah.

You can just fix on the— Yeah. Yeah. Too, so that the tiny people can also play. The tiny people. Yes.

You know, trying to come up with things like that that are inexpensive but do support, you know, more people.

Yeah, that equipment, I would love to put it out again. Um, unfortunately we've had like too many instances, and it's the same reason we don't have people either not respecting our equipment, um, or putting it away in a fashion that we can never find it again.

Um, do you have like scheduled posts for calls for volunteers? I mean, I feel like You could probably— I mean, maybe you've already done this and I've just missed it, but if you schedule a few posts over the next few months saying how dire the city budget is, and there is a good chance that the amount of volunteers will depend— like, that will shape, you know, what kind of offerings the pool can give or the— and listing out options. I do have it on our website too for the volunteer form. I forgot that. I'll link it.

Yeah, it's just the autofill and it sends out, and then you start getting emails from someone saying they want all your information, and that's okay. They're starting to do a background check. The school sends out a volunteer form at the beginning of every year, and it has like, what are you interested in volunteering for? Yeah, so it just— yeah, even if you just posted one like a PDF on Ours has, has also has. Yeah.

Oh, good. Yeah, I remember that when I coached soccer like 3 years ago. Yeah, it has. I still have it, but I haven't seen it. So yeah, I guess it's not a PDF.

It's not, I don't know, we, I mean, like, we just leave all forms, but I can print that out too. Constant, constant reminder annoyances. Yeah. Yeah. The way that we all are, right?

Facebook is too. Sometimes you don't see posts for days later, you don't see them at all. And so sometimes the more the merrier. Yeah. And, you know, again, going back to like, we lost our communications person last year.

She's not like an actual human, most popular city. And all that work dropped onto all of us that she was doing. So all the social media, everything with everything is internal now. So It's literally Jake and I and Taylor from our department that are doing that. So that's the other part of it is that that is like a, it's a sometimes a, I'm not saying that they're volunteers, but if you don't see things posted a lot, it's we're probably doing something.

Yeah. Because content is, it's time consuming. It's incredibly time consuming. Yeah. Yeah, I know that in media training they say like, you might see it every day, but someone will only see it once a week.

So it's, I mean, like even if you've repeated posts, I've seen like city entities do that. We all, yeah, Jamie and I were just talking about it today. Because, you know, we've been to both vendor trainings with marketing and all the different things that we're trying to do the, unfortunately, the easiest things, you know, what can we actually get done and be consistent about. So. But what you have, you know, your videos and stuff, you did a lot for Parks and Rec on 4th of July.

I saw like, it's like I saw more of your posts because there was more of them, which it's part of the algorithm, right? But I mean, they were simple. I know they still took effort, but I was like, man, the visibility was great. And we were prepared like a month before, you know, it didn't— Yeah. Like we planned that out, but yeah, it was great to have that.

And I think it put out a lot of content too. Started a lot of conversations. Yeah. About like, oh, you have this many parks, you have this many, you know, it did. So what do you, you know, all this stuff we're taking care of.

So, hey, you should recycle that for budget. Yeah. Remember all the things. So no, that's, these are great suggestions and I get, yeah, with my head down and yeah. Well, you're wearing so many hats.

Oh yeah. Like, too many. It's a boilerplate. We can just skip the word. So then you don't have to be a boiler mechanic, right?

What will you do with all your free time? I know. I'm actually headed down there after we leave. So anyway, any other questions? I know there's a lot going on.

I try to communicate as much as I can, but things I really— it would, you know, come to you as the council meetings. Watch it if you can. I know this is in some post somewhere, but what's the, um, match deadline for the community? It's the end of the year. End of the year.

Yeah, also I had it, I was hoping to get it by June 30th, but, um, I, you know, wanted to put a deadline. It's actually the end of the year, so we have some time. $5,000, We got this. Shake some people. Yes, trick or treat for money.

All right. I mean, yeah, yeah, you don't get the— you don't, you don't get the money. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Any questions? So there's— think you might have already answered this, but as you said, your certification had lapsed. We don't have another lifeguard training scheduled, folks, or anything. We don't. I am trying to get to Juneau to get my grand instructor done.

And then when I come back, I can do one. And that really is— and, you know, no one can laugh about this— when I slow down a little bit. So if the boilers are working and all that fun stuff, then, you know, it's like something I have to fit into my schedule too. So hopefully, I mean, someone else would get trained to do that. That was willing to do it.

You know, like Logan, he was, he was a very It's always nice to have two background contractors too. So, um, anyway, navigating it.

Uh, when are we going to talk about fee schedule? So, so there's a work session coming up. They haven't— I'll have the schedule soon. I can give it out to you guys for what the city council work session is, but that fee schedule discussion will be in one of the work sessions. So, um, I don't know if our meeting's overnight, though.

Um, I can at least email you what the, the draft one is when I get it done. I mean, if that's helpful at all, but it will be in that works— work session scheduled for the city council. Dave, I don't believe I was— think they're going to announce it There's a lot of meetings going on because of budgets. They're trying to fit a whole batch of stuff in.

Any more questions on the report?

I think no one can deny that you and your team are wildly creative and motivated.

Anyway, uh, is there any new business that— if you'd like to bring to the floor? I know I did it all.

Okay. And any commission business from the floor that has not been discussed?

Lovely. There's another opportunity for comments from the audience who'd like to weigh in on our meeting this evening.

Um, running through all of the questions, but I can bring them up.

I would like to say something to that, Miss— we've had a lot of our conversations recently with getting this started, and I just want to say that I appreciate all the work that you guys put into getting the swim teams going and the school programs going. And saying that we can't swim to kids is one of the hardest things that I have to say, um, sometimes. And I just really appreciate it and all your work because it does make me and all of our staff very happy to see every piece swimming. So thank you.

I don't believe there are any pending agenda items. Or are there?

Motion to adjourn. Is there a second? A second. Meeting adjourned at 6:47. Nice.

Thank.