Nome Common Council Regular Meeting- Oct. 13, 2026

Seconded by Councilmember Henderson. Is there any further discussion on the agenda motion? I call roll on agenda, please. Councilmember Martinson? Yes.

Councilmember Henderson? Yes. Councilmember Lust? Yes. Councilmember Green?

Yes. Councilmember Johnson?

Yes. The agenda is approved as amended. The next item will be oaths of office. First of all, for the appointment of Randy Olds to the Nome Common Council— not an appointment, for the election.

You want to come up here and you can go down there. All right, either way. Yeah, do it by the podium there, it's fine.

I, Randy Oles, do solemnly swear that I will support the Constitution of the United States, the laws of the state of Alaska, and the ordinances of the municipality of Nome, and that I will, to the best of my ability, honestly and faithfully, honestly and faithfully discharge the duties of my office, discharge the duties of my office of City of Nome Common Council member, City of Nome Common Council member, without fear, without fear, favor, or partiality, favor or partiality, and therein do to do every justice, and then do justice to all persons, to all persons, and to the cities and to the city.

Randy, you can join us at the council table, please.

Thank you so much and welcome.

Okay, next item on the agenda will be the appointment of Jennifer Dean Johnson to the Nome Planning Commission, seat G.

Hi. Hi. Jennifer Dean Johnson. Jennifer Dean Johnson. Do solemnly swear.

Do solemnly swear. That I will support the Constitution of the United States that I will support the Constitution of the United States, the laws of the state of Alaska, the laws of the state of Alaska, and the ordinances of the municipality of Nome, and the ordinances of the municipality of Nome, and that I will, and I will, to the best of my ability, the best of my ability, honestly and faithfully, honestly and faithfully, discharge the duties of my office, discharge the duties of my office, of city of Nome Planning Commissioner of City of Nome Planning Commissioner, without fear, without fear, favor or partiality, favor or partiality, and therein to do every justice, and therein to do every justice, to all persons and to the city, to all persons and to the city, so help me God, to help me God. Thank you very much.

Congratulations. I just happen to be the closest.

The welcome committee. Yes, the next item will be the reappointment of Greg Smith to the Nome Planning Commission CE.

Hi. Hi, Greg Smith. Greg Smith. Do solemnly swear— do solemnly swear that I will support the Constitution of the United States—the laws of the state of Alaska—and the ordinances at the municipality of Nome—in the ordinances of the municipality of Nome—and then I will—to best my ability—for the best of my ability—honestly and faithfully—honestly and faithfully—discharge the duties of my office—discharge your duties of my office a Planning Commissioner, a Planning Commissioner, without fear, favor, or partiality, without fear, favor, or partiality, and therein do ever justice, and therein do ever justice, to all persons and to the City of Nome, to all persons and to the City of Nome, so help me God, so help me God. Thank you.

Next item, the approval of the minutes. September 28th. I'll entertain a motion to approve.

Motion by Council Member Johnson, seconded by Council Member Green. Any discussion on minutes?

Hearing none, call a vote, please. Councilor West? Yes. Councilor McGree? Yes.

Councilmember Henderson? Yes. Councilmember Munson? Yes. Councilmember Johnson?

Yes. Councilmember Oles? Yes. Motion carries.

Next item, the communications item A, October 1st, 2026, Grass Station LLC license renewal.

Questions, comments? As part of— when we get these communications, would it be possible to get like a police chief to indicate when we have these, is there any issues of concern? This is a regular part of this process.

Would that be appropriate? Should be, obviously. Yeah, whether it's—. Let me work with the chief, see what we can do. Just to say, hey, yeah, there's no concerns here.

Okay, I'll work on it. Yep, got it.

If there's nothing else, we'll move on then. Uh, Item B, October 17th, 2027, Pumpkin Patch flyer, help support the gnome preschool.

Item B is the pumpkin patch flyer currently showing on the screen by Nome Preschool.

Yeah, for your information, viewing pleasure. Item C, which has been laid down for you there, the CORE resolution 2026-14 supports a moratorium on seabed mining to protect Alaska Native subsistence, tribal sovereignty, and ocean resources.

I was called about this afternoon consideration by counsel, but my comment to them was, if that's what they were— they— I would prefer, and I thought you would also come to the meeting, um, you know, to explain what it is and those kind of things. So for now, it's just information.

All right, we'll move on then to citizens' comments.

Evening. Um, you guys got a, um, appeal for a denial from Mr. Moniek. He rides for me and he delivered for me for years, um, way back. Um, it got denied even Though your ordinance clearly states that the chief of police is the one with the approval or denial, and the chief's sitting right there. I talked to the chief a couple weeks ago and he said he approved it months ago.

Um, you know, Mike, I think it was February or March when Mike turned it in and the city clerks got the approval from the chief and they just sat on it. Until, until last week and then denied it.

Um, you know, it says, uh, right in your ordinance under the application process 3-10-025, um, upon receipt of a complete application, the chief of police will review it and the chief of police will approve or deny. Um, But apparently after the chief approved it, someone in the city manager— I don't know if it was the city manager himself or a staff member— decided, nope, we're going to deny it. Um, the denial letter was signed by the city clerk, Dan Grimmer, um, and he referenced, uh, Chapter 1141.

Which is under 310, uh, 30, causes for denial, um, chapter 1141, crime offenses against the person. And right above that in Section 1, it says, uh, 3 years, um, misdemeanor or felony offense. But you look down at the bottom, um, Number 2, and it says if they've been convicted, they— of, of AS 1141, um, they could deny it, you know. So your ordinance, you know, like I've brought you guys attention dozens of times, it conflicts with itself. It says it's good in one section, the next section says that nope, nope, it's not good.

You know, you guys, you guys need to fix that. What I actually, what I think that is, is they didn't finish what they were doing. And most offenses have levels of the offense, like assault is 1 through 5, felonies are ABC or something like that. And I'm thinking this other part, there's levels levels of the offense, that some are, um, timed out and some aren't. But your ordinance doesn't say that.

It says that after 3 years, anything with 1141 is, uh, erased, basically.

But in the, in the, in the letter, that, that's what— and the, the offense was like 35 years ago, and the chief knows about that. I talked to the chief about it maybe 2 weeks ago or so, and he knows about it, and he approved the application. You know, myself, I was convicted back in the '90s of a felony. I don't hide it. It's something I did when I was young and stupid, and I moved on.

You know, mine is timed out also.

Um, so what I'm asking you guys tonight too is overturn the denial by whichever staff improperly denied it. Um, and then that way Mike can get back to work. Um, he talked with the officer last week and he was driving, but he decided Enough was enough that he was gonna not drive until he get his HOFRS license, because the day that they denied his, I was approved for taxi permits. I'm actually a legal taxi driver now, or taxi company. I have two permits.

And after two and a half years of going around and around in circles with you guys, I finally decided I'm gonna bite the bullet and become legal in everybody's eyes. Anyway, if you guys can do that tonight, that'd be great.

You know, it's right in your ordinance that it's fine. The chief signed off on it.

You guys heard Randy do his oath of office. It says, you know, follow the rules of Nome, ordinances of Nome. Well, there's your rules right there.

Chief signed off on it. It's good to go.

Thank you.

Any other citizens' comments? I do have, uh, ask Chip if he would come up, and he has a couple guests we'd like to introduce.

Good evening, members of the council. For those of you who might not know me, my name is Chip Leeper. I'm the Director of Recreation for the City of Nome, and I have two guests that we would like to introduce. We have Cole Cummins and Keith Randall. They are risk management consultants with the Alaska Public Risk Alliance.

Slips, trips, and falls, building a safety culture. And then tomorrow we're going to talk about ergonomics, fire and life safety. Keith's down in Kenai and I'm out of the Juneau office there. So we are both Alaskans as well. And I think that that does bring a little bit— of course, I was talking slips, trips, and falls today.

And I told the attendees that you guys know slips, trips, and falls, you know, better than I do in Juneau out here. But sometimes it's bringing that awareness to what's in the workplace and what can we do to mitigate those challenges and those hazards out there. So thanks for having us out here. Yeah, I would just echo those words. Thanks to City Manager Smith and to Chip for bringing us out.

It's been great so far and looking forward to tomorrow. And so thank you again. Awesome. Thanks, guys. And they also offer a lot of free stuff, so we're signing up for everything.

They actually do have some very good training programs. Very good. Gentlemen.

Still doing this bi—. Every, every other week. Maybe I'll catch you at the end of the next one. Thanks, guys. Thank you.

Thank you.

Any further citizen comments?

All right, move on then. Uh, nothing under unfinished business, so we'll move on to new business. Item A, appeal made by Harold Michael Amasek for the denial of a chauffeur's license.

Cheryl, entertain motion to grant the appeal. For the purposes of discussion, I'll make a motion to grant the appeal. Motion by Councilmember Lush to grant the appeal, seconded by Councilmember Green. We are in discussion.

So I had a couple, uh, thoughts or questions on this appeal. I was looking at this over the weekend. Do we know, does the city ordinance— this was written sometime in the past— does the city ordinance come from Alaska statute, or do we know when city ordinance, when it was written, was this just the city council at that time coming up with the best idea that they had at the time? And that's rhetorical in nature. The reason why I ask this question is, um, we have transportation networks in Alaska, right?

That's the big new thing— Uber, Lyft. And, uh, so while city ordinance— I agree with the analysis of the city clerk and the city manager that based on city ordinance that, uh, it would result in a denial When you look at the state transportation network criteria, you— Mr. Amasek, I believe, could be driving Lyfts and Ubers tomorrow, which gets us to the point of, I know when we were doing our work on city ordinance for taxicabs and things, maybe we should have had our criteria for issuing chauffeur limits, permits, chauffeur licenses, permits mirror that of the state level for a similar type thing. Um, but most things at the state, state level for Uber and Lyft have a 7-year limit, um, for most felonies and things. I will say the city limit seems to limit things a lot further than that. So just throwing that out into the universe.

I don't know.

The question I have is, this incident took place back in the '80s, and I know he's been driving cab for 30 years, so why is this just coming up now?

Yeah, damn.

Yes, Danny, you there?

You're on mute.

I can hear you. Okay, we can hear you now. You're on now. You want to— yes, sir, go ahead.

Um, the code is law as far as I'm concerned. It is pretty clear that shall deny does not use the may language, which allows us, uh, discernment in cases like this. It says shall, which is a requirement. And so as far as I'm concerned, the code is clear that it shall be denied as it states in the code. The, the charges that are non-negotiable are offenses against persons.

This particular case, um, this gentleman had a sexual assault or sexual abuse of a minor in second degree, which is a Class B felony. There is no statute of limitations for such a charge. It stays and has, uh, consequences indefinitely according to state law. And so I'm following the state law, I'm following our code, which is why it was denied.

So setting all of that aside, and I, and I'm tracking what it means. It means that it can always be prosecuted. This individual, from my understanding, this has all been unconditionally discharged and has in the past been given taxi chauffeur licenses repeatedly over the years. So, and I'm not saying that because now we know it, that, you know, that made it okay if he was not qualifying for them, but do we have any answer of why in the past he was able to have these granted to him?

Do we have any history records, anything that would shed some shed some light on that? I would say not. Okay, really? And then again, kind of a second thought of it sounds like potentially hands are tied right now, city ordinance. But, uh, you know, set aside the current crime in this scenario.

Like, in 2022, the law changed where your third misdemeanor assault now becomes a felony. So according to our own city ordinance now there's going to be a whole host of people who after a certain period of time might totally disqualify. So again, I think we're going to have to really seriously take a look at our ordinance as a whole and look at trying to potentially make it mirror the state transportation network qualifications. Just throwing that out, but I don't know that that helps tonight.

I think there may be, uh, uh, Mr. Mayor, I think there may be, uh, reasons why municipalities, especially small municipalities, may have something different than the state regulations on Lyft and Uber for further protection of the municipality, different than, or like you said, more stricter than what the state might have. So, and that's something we could discuss if we—. Right, yes.

Right. Any further discussion? All right. For clarification, the motion was to— for what now? Motion was to grant The appeal.

Correct, the appeal. Right, so a yes vote will allow them to drive. Yes.

There's no further discussion. May you take a roll call vote, please? Council Member Martinson? Yes. Council Member Johnson?

No. Council Member Anderson? No. Council Member Wools? Yes.

Council Member Green? Yes. Councilmember Moss?

No.

3 No. I hear 3 to 3. Yep.

I vote yes.

Motion carries.

Next item on the agenda, you read it by title please.

Resolution 26-10-02, a resolution of the City of Nome, Alaska, requiring the utility board to hold all regular and special meetings at City Hall.

Is there a motion to adopt this resolution? I'll make the motion. Motion by Councilmember Green, seconded by Councilmember Martinson.

Is there any discussion on this?

Okay, I think in previous meetings there were—. There was—. There have obviously been multiple requests by council members for the NJUS board to move their meeting location from the power plant to City Hall. And I think there was a desire expressed either the last meeting or 2 meetings ago to formalize that request because up to this point, it's just been individual council members asking whoever was, you know, doing the operations report And there was, I think, some folks that wanted us to formalize the request. So this basically formalizes the request on behalf of the City Council to do what individual council members have been already asking to do.

That's basically my interpretation of this. Is that— yes. And I don't know if Dan wants to explain the difference or Lee does. I think it might be helpful to explain explain the difference between a resolution and an ordinance. This is a resolution, not an ordinance.

Yeah, Dan. Absolutely. Difference between a resolution and an ordinance. Ordinance is law. We are governed by laws.

And so it is that shall language is what we do. A resolution is a a commitment that we're committing, uh, that this is the course of action that we want to take or that we would like to see. Now, if, uh, the city council wishes to pass this, this is a strong ask from the city council to the NJUS board and manager to have these meetings held here. If, uh, um, yeah. And so I think that kind of sums it up.

Thank you, Dan. Mr. Mayor. You're welcome. Mark. So first of all, I'm supportive of them moving over, moving their meetings over to this chambers as we've requested before.

I think Gnome Nugget asked the two members up for election that question, and they were not opposed to it. That came up for—. On the recent election. However, a couple of things is I just had a question of whoever wrote this. Why did we start out with just the City Council and Planning Commission and the other ones?

What happened to the Port Commission? Where do they keep from— Planning meets here, Port Commission meets here. We left the Port Commission out of that, whereas It just kind of dawned on me as weird. And the other thing that I heard language was that we are requesting that they move here. However, the resolution says under Section 1 that hereby required to hold our— so are we requiring or are we requesting?

Just for clarification, I'm to counsel, so to counsel, decide is it required, is it a suggestion, is it an invitation, whatever.

I appreciated Dan's comment that it's a strong ask or strong Yeah, Scott, I guess I asked Dan to clarify the difference between, you know, a resolution and ordinance. If this was an ordinance, then they would absolutely be required to do it under whatever penalties, you know, of law that there is. That's not what this is. This is a strongly worded request to do what we're asking, you know. Mr. Mayor, so I don't know if that explains it.

Go ahead, Dan. Yeah, I, I, I agree with Mark's comments. The Port Commission, uh, being left out, that was just oversight on our part, um, which, I mean, we can certainly change the language in this however the council wishes, as this would be a resolution of the council. And so if it's their desire to change some of the words in there or to add something in there, we can most certainly do that.

Um, I—. If it is the council's desire that, you know, specific boards and/or commissions meet in City Hall, um, uh, we can also change that in ordinance to make it an actual requirement.

All right. Thank you, Dan. Go ahead, Scott. I guess I would follow up with, since this is a strongly worded request, even though it says require, you know, from a practical standpoint, if the NJUS Board decides not to follow this, there's really nothing that this body can do legally. You know, without taking it one step further and like passing an ordinance, right?

I mean, regardless of the wording of the resolution, is that— and do you agree with that? That is correct. The city council's purview is to be able to change ordinance and change language in the ordinance. And so if it is not specific enough, as there's been some comments tonight that have said as much, then that's something that the council has the power to be able to amend.

I think you agreed with me. Yes, I did. Yes. Okay. I heard another resolution about the ordinance.

Right. That's not what we're not doing, an ordinance tonight. Not tonight. Well, Dan just mentioned about the ordinance. That's why I brought it up.

Yeah, that—. Yeah, are you uncomfortable with the wording? Well, just—. It's just contradictory to what we're seeing. Required and requesting are two different languages, and, and, and the practical application is the same though.

I mean, I make a motion. I'd like to make a motion. One is to add in the first column, whereas the City Council, the Port Commission, and the Planning Commission of the city now currently hold— I'd like to add the word, uh, Port Commission. And in Section 1, meeting location mandate, change the word required to request— requested to hold.

Would that impact the title as well then?

Yes, thank you.

Is that the extent of your motion? That is the extent, yes. All right, is there a second to Mark's motion? A second. Seconded by Council Member Martin.

All right, discussion?

What does even come up? I said, why did this even come up? Before they built the new powerhouse, I had no place to have meetings, so they were down at the meeting room. They were in here. So let's, uh, initiate this.

Sounds like a mandatory move the way it's worded.

Mm-hmm. That's what started it. Um, it was started by a number of councilmen requesting that they hold their meetings here because it's really difficult to both hear and participate in meetings at the powerhouse that they have. So, um, it was— this resolution is an attempt to get them to please hold their meetings here so that they can be attended by more members of the public. And so this has come to the attention of the council, and, uh, this, uh, is so far our response because we've had, um, so far they have yet to hold any meetings here despite the simple requests.

So now with this resolution, the entire council may or may be requesting this, and so it should have a little more weight as it comes from the entire council as opposed to simply one or two council members.

And if I think—. No, okay.

Um, is there any further discussion?

Hearing no further discussion, may we call the vote, please? Council Member West? Yes. Council Member Green? Yes.

Council Member Owles? No. Council Member Henderson? Yes. Council Member Martinson?

Yes. Council Member Johnson? Yes. Resolution passes. Sorry about that.

That's the change the wording. For the amendment. Very good. We changed the wording on the— okay, now on the main motion. Should we ask other, other boards to do the same?

The Planning Commission and the Port Commission both meet here. Tenroy? No, typical. Oh, I know, the Utility Board report. Utility board requested the school do the same.

Oh, I think we keep it to one, one, one thing at a time. Yeah, but it's nice, but it's different in the way the laws are set up. And yeah, all right, on the main motion Is there any further discussion?

All right, on the main motion, call roll please. Councilor Anderson? Yes. Councilor Morrison? Yes.

Councilor Johnson? Yes. Councilor Knowles? Yes. Councilor McGee?

Yes. Councilor Lewis? Yes. Okay, now the resolution passed. Thank you.

Um, the Utility Manager's report will be every other meeting, and so we'll move on then to a quick subset of City Manager's report from the Port Director. The Port Director, and then the Chief following if he has anything. And there is a written report attached, I guess, or just an update? And Mr. Manager, would you call on me to report?

I'm here. Yes. Awesome. Awesome. Oh, very good.

You want to go ahead, John? Uh, sure. Uh, just a second, let me see if I can get my video on here.

Okay, now I don't have enough light. You need to pay your lot and staff there. First of all, I want to say congratulations to Councilmember Ohls on his election. I've known Randy for many, many, many years, and I think he'll be a wonderful asset to the city of Nome. I want to pass along a thanks to the state of Alaska for getting their street sweeper back out.

With all the hauling that has been going on, in the community and the wet weather that we've had. There has been so much track on, as they call it, dirt that, as we all know, turns to dust immediately when the rain quits. And they were out there, I think Friday night maybe, running up and down this— the roads, and it definitely was noticeable. I took a video of the area that they had already swept, and then somebody went to go around the sweeper, and as they went around the sweeper, uh, they got off, you know, in the stuff not done, and it was nothing but a dust cloud again. The same thing has been happening out on Port Road, and thanks to, uh, the port and city manager for bringing that to the the attention of the contractor running rock trucks there.

We were definitely not liking the amount of dust that was being kicked up in that area and getting into the engine filtration systems.

We do have filters to take them out, but they also have to be changed much more often if we can't keep the dust down. So thank you to the state and thank you to Cole and Public Works, Chris, guys as well for their efforts in keeping the dust down. The other evening, I believe it was Friday evening between 11:00 and 11:30, I got a call that there was a power line down on Front Street. Uh, so I jumped in the truck and headed down there, and there wasn't actually a line down, but a vehicle had been driving down east on Front Street and somehow decided to try to go between the pole and buildings there and ran into the Kavota building. Broke windows, tore off part of the flashing on the side, and then somehow got spun around and wedged in between the power pole and that building.

Number one, it's very fortunate that nobody was injured, although I do believe they took the driver off for observation. But usually there are some kids that live in that building playing outside, and Luckily, they were not in the area at the time. The other thing that we consider quite lucky is the fact that the vehicle did not actually knock over the control panel for the lift station that is right there. That's the lift station that collects everything from the east side of town and dumps in there for its final push to, uh, the water treatment plant there at a wastewater, um, in the, uh, down by the Mini Convention Center. Um, so I appreciate, uh, the, um, police, uh, fire, and ambulance folks for being there, and also our line crew that, uh, came out to, uh, kill the power for a moment to some of the structures there so that if in the removal of the vehicle something did come down, it was less likely to injure anybody.

I also wanted to again thank— I believe we've done so previously— the Village of Sullivan for continued cooperation in the, um, in a number of places. Uh, they were instrumental in the East End Water and Wastewater, uh, addition there. Um, and now with some funds that they had available to them, uh, they have contributed $125,000 for the $250,000 new line truck, and we will appropriately recognize that on the piece of equipment as well. But I want to thank Deyala and everybody there at Village of Solomon. It is nice to have a— we have some good cooperation going on with them and other tribes as well, and that's appreciated.

Mentioning Village of Solomon, they also did a pilot project where they put in some solar panels on 3 different buildings, one belonging to King Island Native Corporation and then 2 VOS buildings. And they are pushing power back into the grid. It's not net metering. There is a special meter that is connected to their panels. And then the utility pays them the avoided cost, diesel cost, for those kilowatts that they give back to us.

So we're seeing this to be working fairly positively, and the board expressed that maybe there were others in town that wanted to do the same thing and that management and staff should embrace those types of projects where we could reduce or— yeah, reduce some of the use of diesel. Also, we are getting closer to finishing up the Stack Robber project, as I call it, which was a federally funded program to put Rankine cycle contraptions on the exhaust of the generators. And we are then able to harness kilowatts from the heat that is going up the generator and return those to the grid. So that's a another project that I think is going to be a benefit to Nome.

Um, being there was some discussion on this resolution, I guess I was surprised that there was a presentation from that because in the minutes you might note that under the manager's report, I did— I was there and addressed the matter and said that it would be brought back to the, the board for inclusion of the discussion and a determination at their meeting. And so that meeting is actually here next Tuesday. And so I did take that from the council, and so, you know, it's something that, you know, is on the draft agenda at this time. I also, I guess, feel that motions, resolutions, ordinances, they all, you know, carry a similar amount of weight, although only under an ordinance can, you know, does it become law.

And, you know, over time I have heard one or two comments about it, but never, never a motion on that recommendation. And certainly, you know, we try to recognize and be cooperative and respectful to any requests, but, you know, when they're simply done as comments, I haven't been at a number of the meetings and would not have heard those, and I frankly was not going to go back and listen to it because it was not worth my time. Um, so I'm just gonna— and the reason that the board moved in the first place was, uh, the board had been meeting in City Hall for a number of years, and then it was prior to COVID that the board on numerous occasions came to hold their meeting, and the Planning Commission was in there or some other meeting was ongoing that had started earlier and wasn't done. And so then the board was moving over to the XYZ Center, once moved over to the visitor center, and that's when the determination by the board was to move out to the power plant. The issue of the sound was brought up and that difficulty, and we addressed that by shutting down the engine that is immediately next to the meeting room and was causing the disturbance.

And that would be the plan for any time that we had meetings in that location. And when the power plant was built, that area that has television and whiteboards and those other things that are, you know, convenient to be used were installed in that facility. So I can say that in all the years of meetings, I believe we've had better attendance from the public when it's been at the power plant than we did anytime when it was at City Hall. That be as it may, I am not opposed to the thing and certainly would support that. I don't think that there would be a unanimous board agreement, but there is, I believe, a majority that really, you know, as long as there's a guarantee or the that, you know, the meeting space is available and will not be— they will not be, I guess, having to look for another location because something else is scheduled in the meeting room.

That was a problem, and if that problem is resolved and there's a commitment on that, I think the board would look at it favorably. And the— thank you, Councilmember Green, for bringing up the issue of the school. It wasn't a request necessarily as much as a comment that the school— it's really nice that the school board is meeting in their own facilities. And, uh, the utility felt, uh, and also saw that it was, um, uh, you know, convenient to meet in our facilities as well. So, um, anyway, uh, I'm not, uh, I can't, uh, tell you the board is going to say okay, but, uh, I, my if I was betting on it, I'd double my bet right now.

So other than that, I'd be happy to answer any questions.

And if there are no questions, I thank you for your time. Any questions for John? John, thanks for attending. I think you guys are The—. Well, let me see if I can tell you what that number is here.

It is, is a definite increase.

Uh, the, uh, no, it's not getting on right here at the moment. Um, it, uh, it is a definite increase, and the number, uh, I want to say was around $3.

Was our, um, write-off rate. And, uh, I think it might even have been $2.96, sticks in my mind for some reason. Yeah. And so, uh, yeah, it's a buck and a half more, uh, you know, almost double what it was, right, in the past. Right.

Have you looked at and been able to determine how much of an increase in utility bills in terms the cost of kilowatt hours, like a percentage that we're looking at with the— obviously there's going to be a fuel surcharge adjustment.

Are you in a position yet? I think that my number that I spouted off before, just off the cuff, was that it probably was a 10-cent—. In the 10-cent range. Okay. That the, of the fuel.

But I will get that actual information. You know, part of it is on a gallon cost, and then some of the handling costs are not on the gallon. So we always wait till we get the, you know, the total gallons to get, you know, to the 4th decimal point in pricing. That's about what, a 25%—. I will provide some information on that, and we'll start putting some public information out on it so that people aren't shocked.

You know, the other thing is I'll have to do a little analysis to see once we get the fuel, and then we will provide a report to the RCA, and that will change, will increase the fuel, the power cost equalization number for eligible accounts.

The—. It's still, you know, limited, you know, the, the cap on the thing is 750 kilowatts of does not apply to commercial or business accounts or second accounts of, uh, you know, an individual party. But that, uh, you know, a big part of that 10 cents that's getting by the increase of the fuel will then be reflected in an increase of the PCE. So can you sort of estimate, like, a typical ratepayer right now, they might see if they have PCE, they might get a 20% increase, and then an account that, say, is not eligible for PCE might have a 40%— I mean, increase? I mean, we're all trying to figure out—.

I've never done, done those on percentages. Okay, um, just had the numbers, but I will, uh, work through those things and, uh, I can send that information around, uh, here before the end of the week. And when will those higher rates take effect? Uh, they were scheduled to start with the October billing, but That was when we were expecting the fuel to be delivered in September. Um, you know, we really should, uh, you know, make it effective in October, uh, because we're gonna make a bank payment on it, bigger bank payment.

But, uh, you know, I, I don't— I guess my recommendation to the board is going to be that it's effective with the November bill. We appreciate that. Final question, you mentioned the bank note. I think the amount of the bank financing is 8 point— is it $8.6 million? $8.6 Million.

And the bill is higher than that, you know, when we get our final thing. So we're taking, you know, out of operating funds I sent out half a million dollars to Crowley on Friday for the part that's not going to be covered by the—. So it actually went up after we approved— the NJUS board and the city council approved that, that note? Uh, yes, we were, we were just, uh, you know, working on estimates and where things were at the time. Okay.

And so So unfortunately it was a little bit lower, but we are able to make that whole with operating funds. Yeah, somebody asked me the question, and I'll repeat the question to you.

Did that financing go through— I think it was the first year we've had bank financing, or NJUS has had bank financing in 2 or 3 years, right? Because I think previously Crowell carried the, carried the note on that, right? Uh, they, they did, um, uh, for 2 years, uh, and then, uh, 30 years, um, uh, 30 years prior to that, uh, it through the same bank for bond or note, uh, resi—. Resi—. Utility revenue anticipation note, URAM.

And that then, uh, does give us a bit of a break on interest. Great. Um, yeah, as a former banker, I remember bidding on that every year. It was a pretty robust competitive process. Did the, uh, for this year, did that go out to a competitive RFP?

Uh, no. Uh, I contacted, um, uh, the, uh, the two, uh, local banks here, and, uh, Wells said thank you but no thank you, and, uh, Northrim was more than happy to work with us.

So Wells said no and Northrop said yes. I appreciate that. I'm glad Northrop stepped up. Any idea why Wells Fargo said no? Uh, just because we didn't have, uh, all of the documentation and stuff that they would need to run it through their system.

People that are in Minneapolis and San Francisco, I think, that it was just, uh, it would have been a heck of a lot more work to try to, uh, to get that with them. So I would expect they might be interested next year when we have, uh, you know, when we're caught up to the— to today. And maybe they'll have a different—. Lack of audited financials obviously was a factor. Yeah.

And so, uh, you know, the other thing is, uh, uh, I guess, um, uh, it's great to have, uh, Northrim as an Alaska bank and a bank in our community. And, uh, I'm seeing more and more, uh, we're getting more and more loans for confirmation for for folks that are able to get financing through Northrim, that I guess the people are here and work with you. Not so much with the other bank that's— they're not as familiar with the area.

Yes. So basically, and again, the reason I bring this up is, you know, for other issues we've been— the council has been talking about sort of having a robust competitive process for whether we lease out buildings or property or whatever. And it seems to me that when the city or NGUS borrows nearly $9 million, that there should be some kind of a competitive process and in place to make sure that we're getting the lowest possible rates available. And it sounds like, and I'm not being critical, I'm just sort of clarifying that this deal was essentially directly negotiated with a bank. And as a former banker, I suspect that those rates are significantly higher and ratepayers are paying more as a result.

So I just wanted to point that out. That's a lot of money to be negotiating directly with a financial institution, and I'm glad Northram stepped up. But this is, this is one of these things that cost ratepayers money when we don't have audited financials. It's not just a box that we check to make sure we have all of our paperwork. There are serious financial costs associated with this issue.

So That's all. Thanks.

Anyone else got questions for John? Mark? Hey, John. Yes, sir. To follow up on the charge and the increase of the cost that it's going to cost the community, NJUSE is not increasing the charge for kilowatt hours.

Is that correct? Or however you— what's that measure? You're not increasing that cost? Is that correct? Uh, the, uh, the cost that is, uh, is being increased is, uh, simply, uh, related to the fuel.

Uh, the utility had last raised its rates, uh, in 2005, I believe it was. And so, uh, we have managed to, uh, with, uh, the help of some more customers and with some belt tightening on our own, we have managed for a pretty long time here not having to change, change our rates. But I think, you know, there has been some discussion that as financing or state programs that used to contribute a lot to the, you know, especially to the water and wastewater system, that now that, you know, is something we need to borrow in order to do. And that, that there's cost of money, and that the, um, the rates, you know, the base rate itself will eventually need to go up. And, you know, when the fuel surcharge rate or mechanism was set up, fuel was costing 85 cents a gallon.

And so, uh, you know, that has never been changed where, you know, the reality is, uh, you know, the fuel, um, is always going to cost $3 probably at this point in time. And so when we go through a rate study, uh, you know, the the actual cost will reflect in the rate as opposed to the surcharge. You know, it doesn't change the overall picture, you know, or total cost on it, but it's just a different component, I guess, of the utility charge. So So theoretically, if this is a spike in the fuel charge because of other things going on in the world which are causing our fuel to be high, theoretically the prices could go down next season, next year. That is correct.

Uh, it, um, uh, the, and the, the rate, and that has happened in the past, and it sounds like it might be a good idea for for me to put a little thing together on, you know, the fuel surcharge historically here.

And then my other follow-up question— sorry to cut you off— my other follow-up question is, do you— when you are figuring out when to adjust the rates, which is this year is substantial, I mean, as you know, it's going to be a big hit for the community to pay as much as we're going to have to pay. Um, do you take in that—. What—. How do you take into account the inventory that's in the tank from last year? Uh, we take, uh, that inventory and whatever it is, and, uh, then it's averaged.

So, uh, you know, there will be, uh, you know, some $2.90 9-cent fuel, but it won't be that much because usually this is in September so that we, you know, have, uh, you know, more in the tank, uh, in inventory to mix, to blend together. Uh, you know, this year it's come down a bit, so it still will have an impact on the overall rate, but, uh, it won't be as big adjustment for this calendar year. Okay, now the other comment I was going to make was I'm glad that the state includes the fuel surcharge in the PCE. Yes. I don't know if that's always been or how that came about, but I sure am glad that they do that.

Yeah, no, they, uh, they do include both, uh, both the components. Are both revenue streams on it, and which is, you know, the cost essentially. All right, I can, I can definitely put some more together.

And then I think that the— if I couldn't, Mr. Mayor, clarify the deal on the reporting was that, you know, if there's something, you know, big that comes up, you know, then we would like to report it in realer time than, you know, having it just once a month. But often, you know, there's nothing new to pass on and utilities. I'm happy to be there, but it, you know, it seems like once a month we can report most of the things. Okay, thank you, John. Last chance for John.

Council Member Green, were we running pretty low on fuel before we got the field merge? Uh, I mean, we were getting, um, down, um, you know, further. Uh, yes, we were getting down, you know, starting to be a little concerned about, uh, the amount of fuel that we had and whether we needed to knock on the doors of others in town to see whether we could either borrow or buy from them. But Crowley was able to— they have a dynamic deal going on with, you know, the multiple deliveries that they have, and And we said we need you now, they accommodated.

Sorry, one more question. I heard that Crowley was short on their amount of diesel they had available to them at the end of the season. Did you get the full amount that you wanted to order? Uh, we, uh, 2 million gallons was our confirmed order, and, uh, that is what they've committed to deliver.

So, uh, no, they haven't cut, they haven't reduced it at all from what was requested.

Okay, thank you, John. Appreciate your time.

Greeting. I'll be quick. Just a couple updates to keep you guys in the loop. In-water work continues on the port expansion despite weather and equipment delays. As you all know, the weather that you encountered last week sort of makes it impossible for them to sit on the spur as they're demolishing it, and it just wasn't safe.

And then once the weather started turning around, of course, you had equipment breakdown. But, um, and we're not the only ones who are trying to get things into Nome as far as shipping issues, because the contractor had the same problem, but they were finally able to get their, uh, their track and their seals, uh, parts in so that they could get back up and running. But they still anticipate having this spur completely demolished and the nose of the end of the causeway built back up by late October. Now it might roll into early November and that will— they're still scheduled to wrap up operations for the winter in mid-November and be back in mid to late April to start setting up their equipment and working the quarry and be back out on the end of the causeway sometime in May, depending on ice.

There's a lot of talk about fuel barges. We have a couple more and cargo barges still to go for the season. The big last cargo barge was AML. I don't know how many of you looked out there, but the place was buried, just buried. That's one of the largest inbound cargo barges I think I've seen in my time.

At the port, maybe the exception of when the elementary school was built. But the outbound, the export for a lot of the empties, it's outbound cargo, was in and of itself a large load as well. Just a couple of smaller barges coming in, plus the fuel, and the last 3 construction barges are actually out at the dock today wrapping up their equipment to go south. From working in the region. We made some good progress with facility cleanup the last 3 to 4 weeks.

Thankful to some— thanks to some helpful users, a few contractors, and our own staff at the Port and Public Works. Those guys have all been working rain or shine, wind, whatever it takes. And we're actually— this has produced some additional laydown space that is definitely needed to accommodate the increased demand for vessel and equipment storage, especially after the Thornbush pad we gave up for the project contract as the Corps required.

There's— we'll have a little bit more of that space freeing up here at the end of this week, early part of next week, for some efforts that are currently underway with demolishing of couple of vessels and developing some area on the south end of the lower IP to push those big vessels back. And we— the big vessels that haven't been in the water in a long time, um, they got the message and everybody's on their own track for trying to get rid of some of that gear. They're all on different timelines. A couple of them are actively lead demo in their own vessel, and we're going to push all those back to that armor rock between the south lower pad. We call that where the barge ramps are on the west side of the river, we call that the lower IP.

The south end of that where the armor stone is, and then you've got the, the sand beach west of the channel cut, we're going to push all as much as we can all the way back up to those rocks, and we've had a lot of sand to clear from Murbach, but we put some material out there today and yesterday, and it's going to produce a little more area to expand out to. We're filling every nook and cranny we can find, and if anybody's got any space in their yard, let us know. We'll bring a few over. Any questions? When does the port close?

Yes, Corn asked when does the port close. Oh, I'm sorry, we don't have a specific date. Ice, winter, I guess it would depend on the scope of the question, like for who, like for vessels coming into the port docks. Sukkuliak always comes in November, but it's doubtful anybody can get into the harbor usually that late. So I guess it just depends on what the use is as to when.

My follow-up, so it sounds like Kewitt's still going to be working after the port's closed, right? Sure. Yeah, no, and it's not a bad thing, no, just— yeah, yeah, they're working, you know, and next year as well, a lot earlier than As soon as the ice allows them to work, they have to maximize. One of the things I've always been impressed by is how accurate the port's projections are, you know, for activity, and, you know, the Port Commission through the budget, you know, and you guys are pretty good at guesstimating sort of the level of activity for the upcoming season. Yeah, lots of experience, and that's a good thing.

Um, so what do you What do you envision or projecting for next year?

Kind of the same as 2026, actually more. Kiwis got all of their stuff here. Yeah, but we saw more cargo this year than we expected. More fuel, right? Yeah, we expected—.

So you actually—. I mean, we expected more fuel, but we saw more than we had projected. So We'll start, obviously we're going to start looking at that early next year in budgets again. So yeah, I'm expecting it'll probably be slightly higher. That's what I'm thinking.

And there's still a lot of construction going on in the region and most all of that comes through here. Do you know how long that barrel project is? I mean, we're obviously, the port's getting a lot of activity. 5 Miles of seawall. Yeah.

Yeah. It's going to be a while. It's, uh, multiple tasks associated with that project, and it depends on how frequent the Corps awards those based on budget, annual budget funding, as well as progress and completion schedules for the contractor. So for a while. And those are the two big drivers of port activity, is obviously what Key West is doing with the port expansion and then supporting the barrel project.

Is that fair? Yes, yes. But well, because I think the increased fuel is significantly attached to both of those projects. Yeah, I don't know anything about that. Yeah, yeah, I do.

I see it, the numbers. And yeah, I mean, you get more equipment running around town and you get more fuel. But I mean, it's due to overall port activity though. That as well as construction projects across the region.

That all drives more fuel, more equipment, more materials, more cargo. So cargo is up.

Great. Like I said, the largest last southbound, I mean northbound incoming barge that I've seen in quite some time, and that wasn't driven by either project, that's driven by what's going on in the region. Oh, interesting. It's cargo. Thanks.

I have a question for you.

Uh, I don't know if it's because I'm waiting for something to still come on the barge or not, but it sure seems like the barges have been coming later. And is that a combination of the less ice coming later, basically? But also we've had a lot of fall storms, more than what we traditionally have had in the past. And the fall storms aren't waiting until fall to come. Right.

And so I've heard that's pushed back some of the, maybe some of the lateness in some of the barge activity. The storm, the weather obviously is an impact, pushing the envelope because everyone's trying to get so much done in such a short time that they end up pushing further. I mean, usually we don't have so many barges yet to go in the middle of October, right? It's the middle of October and we're still getting—. So, but it's— and the shoulder seasons are expanding because of the ice forming later and the area, the region generally thawing sooner.

Not as a rule, but generally. We had that 3 years ago when we were open water in April. But then you'll still get a summer where we still got ice, DNMAs. So it's not a routine thing anymore, but it is more often than not that the shoulder seasons are broadening. We're no longer a 5-month operation were 6 to 7, especially at the port.

Not so much in the harbor, that fresh water freezes fast, but the port open longer and longer and more demand from what I'm hearing from—. Yes, right. All right, thank you. Thank you for joining. Is there, with the increased activity, is there any plans on increasing personnel?

We, we've been weighing that. We've been talking about that.

Um, yeah, we'll probably be looking at that at the— on the— in the F28 budget prep. Definitely. We've been talking about that. It's going to take more people as the thing expands, so we've got to build a budget over the next 5 years for some folks, another seasonal person at a minimum, at a minimum. So 2 seasonal.

And how many seasonal and how many full-time people do we have over there? We've got 1 seasonal right now, and, uh, you say 4 full-time, but 1 goes to Public Works. In the winter.

Caitlyn shifts to not— she'll still do her job for the port, but she shifts to helping the clerk's office in, uh, finance in the winter too. So they all kind of dovetail and fill other gaps and then come full-time back to us. We try to make— I mean, we need the full-time people for consistency oversee, but we also try to make sure that they're, they're able to fill other gaps so we don't have to hire more people over there, but we can still, we can share them. It works.

So far it's worked.

All right, thank you all. Thank you, Joy.

Chief. Chief. Good evening everyone, I'm Mike Heinzelman, Chief of Police. I pulled the stats for the police department from July of last year through September on, uh, and then July of this year through September, and overall officer activity is up 30%, self-initiated activity that is. Calls for service are down anywhere from 20 to 30% in most areas.

There is the, uh, sexual assault category that is actually double of what it was last year for those 3 months, but That's something that, uh, it's very difficult to quantify because I hope that someone who is a victim of sexual assault feels confident enough in the police department that they can report it. And we've had quite a few people report sexual assaults, and every one of them is getting investigated. Overall, we have— it's, it's incumbent on me to get a good police Police Department, and I take it very, very seriously. I know that the big push is for me to try and get as many officers as I can to reside in Nome. Currently, I have half of us basically.

What effects it's going to have on debt services in the future, you know, are borrowings going to have to happen. The housing construction project expansion of housing at the schools is something we're having a discussion about right now because, as you see in this a few years, we have the opportunity for 50% of our debt service payment, which obviously helps a lot. But we've got to line those projects up, you know, and look over the next couple years. So we're enjoying our capital project process, which we need to be able to do that to time out, you know, when's the school board looking at projects? Do we have the debt capacity?

Do we have, you know, all those things. So anyway, all that said, having some really good conversations about dual use of properties. Those things have begun, discussions. I'll give a for instance. There's Nome Elementary, the large lot.

I've mentioned you were there. We've looked at doing that playground, actually having a playground that is open to the public plus the half-court basketball. But that's a nice area and it's expanding and growing there. And then we want to look at the west side. So, some good projects, you know, how we could work together, sponsorships, grants.

So, we're having those conversations. So, I think Jamie and Genevieve and Nikki, we're all working together putting those things together along with our engineers. So, And I have committed to the schools and to council that we'll hit the ground running in January with, um, budget, uh, that we're counting schools early. They said that, you know, they found that to be an issue, so we're going to push our process a little tighter. And, um, anyway, look forward to it, but sorry, not pouring concrete.

I was pushing them hard as I can. Well, historically, that elementary school playground was a community playground at one time. I'm not sure at what point they closed up, but I know my kids are younger. We went there quite often. It's got to be— that equipment has got to be replaced.

It's a major liability. So anyway, just to let you know, the school stuff, we're having a lot of good meetings. Yeah.

Any more questions for—. Are we still having an upcoming work session on the revenues? The 26th, so we'll start probably at, uh, 5 o'clock in the morning. Yes, I was going to give it, you know, an hour and a half, uh, because we're doing kind of the Concepts, my and Nikki's.

And they do the, you know, all the tax stuff across the state. They got a unit that does sales tax, so they're helping me on that, like the syntax. What does that mean? So anyway, 26, it's going to be revenues.

Yeah. Scott, does the city have the ability to impound vehicles? Yes. Physically? Yes.

How does that process work? I would have to get it to you. All I know right now is we can. There's some hiccups in it that we need to take a look at and People have done a very good job about, you know, let's say abandoned vehicles. Yeah, that's, that's a big issue.

Now, at the airport, we're working with the state. They're going to move 50. I'm hoping they will move them. You know, we're going to help them move them, but there's 50 vehicles out at the airport that have been deserted more than a year. And do you have to go through an impoundment process every time you do something?

They do. You have to impound them for 90 days. Advertise, and in the 90 days we can destroy the— the plan is we'll be destroying the vehicles, you know, compacting the metal, that kind of thing. So yeah, because I think, was it a couple years ago, we looked at buying a wrecker, the city, and then, you know, so that we could do it ourselves, and then I think there were some budget issues or something. Yeah, well, that's why I wanted to see exactly, you know, is it cheaper just to contract?

I've rarely had to do it over the years. I've had contracts with several companies that would, you know, and we have private resources in town that are available and willing to. And if that cost is— and it's so intermittent, may not be worth the quick buck, right? Yeah, so it's a discussion we're having and have been having since I got here last year. You know, one of the issues we talked about before was having a, like, an area to impound stuff, like if there's an investigation or something.

Does the fenced-in yard comply with the impound requirements at MPD? Yes. Okay, was that part of the accreditation process? If it is, okay. Yeah, it does meet it.

Obviously it needs to probably expand at some point in time, but we've got all the other physical requirements— cameras, lights, all that. Okay, 24/7. Awesome, thanks. Thank you. Okay.

No. Could we do something else other than crushing them?

Well, the problem— never mind, I won't say it. There are possibilities. I'll just say that right now. We're discussing the realities of them, uh, when it's been done in the past. So I will say yes.

We're looking at.

50 Is a lot of vehicles. Yeah, and the ones that I've seen, so we can impound them again. They're the spruce. I appreciate the efforts that are being made though, particularly during winter. The Nome Airport, you know, you go to places like Kodiak, they have a similar sized airport parking lot and it's a 30-day notice and take care of vehicles and it's not a problem.

Yep. Um, there's a process to maintain it. It's going to have to be put— but I look at from the, uh, local DOT, they're stretched too, right? And it's not a priority, but the state has given them the funds to do these things. But season's closing on us, so I'm kind of afraid afraid it's going to move to spring because there's a process prior to holding for 90 days and then when we do our thing.

So it's not a short process, unfortunately.

Okay, there's no more questions for the city manager. We'll then move on to the last citizens' comments. Session. Any citizens wishing to comment this time?

Mr. Council, I got to do a little rearranging. Give me a sec, I can't work both at the same time. Oh, come on, Carl chewing gum and walking. Yeah.

Okay, hopefully I'm in the camera. Ben Townsend speaking in capacity as news director at KNOM. Uh, first of all, I apologize to people watching at home. My Wi-Fi has cut out twice tonight, so you guys might have seen me with a little angry look on my face, but we are back now. Um, I'm thankful to the council for moving forward this resolution regarding NJUS.

At the risk of being a little mean, my sense is maybe somebody on the utility board is yanking out the Wi-Fi cables, plugging them back in, and maybe that's why I've had these dropouts. I'm really grateful to both the city and this council for making these live streams accessible. As has been mentioned, there are some challenges at the power plant. I really appreciate John has made an effort to change the power, the engines that are running during those meetings. The reality is the audio quality is still pretty abysmal.

I'm doing a lot, I'm doing what I can to in real time improve that audio, but there's limits computationally to just a bunch of white noise. So that That is, uh, one thing I wanted to address. The other regarding attendance, I've been going to these meetings for the last 2 years now. I could probably count on one hand the number of people from the general public that have gone to those. As has been mentioned, I think that the building itself is a little tough to access.

For me, when I went for the first time, I was pretty intimidated because it doesn't feel like a place that I should be in. And again, I feel like what has been done with these live streams is a really positive thing for the community to access local government, feel like they have a say. Tonight we've had 30 or so people watching the live stream. Sometimes we have 50, 60, and I know I say it every time, but I imagine if we had that many people physically here what that would feel like. And of course, when people feel like they have something to say, they come and they do so.

Um, regarding scheduling, uh, you know, we have our agreement with the city to cover these meetings. Uh, there's 5 bodies really. There's the council, there's NJUS, port planning, and then the Public Safety Commission, which I haven't really seen anything about in some time. And that's an area that I feel like I personally need to check up on because that's a commission the city established, you know, 5, 6 years ago. But anyways, most meet once a month.

I don't think scheduling can really be an issue. There's 5 days in the week. Even if we decide to all meet in the same week, I think that this stuff can be worked out. So again, I think more access to local government and transparency is a good thing. Certainly at KNOM and in my capacity as the news guy I'm really committed to making that happen for our community.

On a final note, music fest next week, next Friday and Saturday, so please come support KNOM. Same weekend as AFN, so if you're still in town, we have some fun for you. We have a lot of Native dance groups that are going to be performing. And yeah, hope you guys are able to attend if you're in town. And thank you.

Any further public comments?

If not, then we'll move on to council member comments.

Council Member Owens.

Council Member Green. I don't really have anything to add, but thank you to everyone that showed up, and it's been a Uh, yes, also Welcome, Councilman. It's good to have you here, and, uh, everyone in the region, safe travels to the Alaska Federation of Natives next week in Anchorage, and, uh, that it's a productive gathering. Thank you, Councilmember. Councilmember Anderson, uh, also welcome to Randy.

I know we've occasionally over the years had, uh, city political type discussions with ACU and we run into each other at the grocery store, but now we can have those conversations here. So, with cameras on, but assuming that, so I'm, I do support also NJUS, you know, moving their meeting locations to here, and it's primarily, as Ben, I think, very eloquently stated, it's to basically, it's more transparent. Transparent, it's out in the open, people feel comfortable coming in and not only listening but, you know, giving their feedback and input as well. I'm assuming that once they do move, or if they move, we'll be able to— people will be able to attend, you know, virtually, right? Just like we do for City Council meetings and Commission, Port Commission meetings and so forth, and they can join that way.

And we'll also be able to, even though it's a separate entity, I assume we'll be able to put meeting packets on the city website. Yep. Like we do for City Council and Port Commission and Planning Commission. So we could, we could all, we could do that right now. Exactly.

If the—. However we can have it. Okay. Awesome. Uh, great meeting.

Thanks. Thank you, Council Member Anderson. Council Member Martinson. I have nothing. Thank you, Council Member Martinson.

You're welcome. All right, um, I'd like to thank my two new— well, one new and a returning Planning Commission members, uh, and also John Oden's Planning Commission term expired this season, and he's, uh, declined the invitation to re-up. So we still have one vacancy on the Planning Commission still to go to fill. John's been on the Planning Commission for quite a few number of years, and I thank him a lot for his time and attention.

Welcome, Randy. Good.