20260522 Commissioner All-Staff-

Okay, good afternoon everyone. Hey, I'm Ryan Anderson, the Commissioner of Alaska Department of Transportation and Public Facilities, and we're doing an all-staff update today. It's May 22nd, 2026, believe it or not, and hopefully all of you are somewhere where it's actually sunny and warm because we've had a pretty long winter. So I'm excited for that. I'm excited that we're through legislative session for the most part, and we're kind of moving into our good construction season time of year where we get to build all these, all these great projects.

So we're going to run through the agenda today. It's really, you know, to get everyone through kind of the legislative, what happened in legislative session, the budget piece. We know that's a pretty high-interest area right now for folks, and rightfully so. But also some of the organizational changes that we're moving forward with. We want to make sure, you know, you all have a chance to hear from us on that, you know, what's going on with construction season this year, some of our cool new technologies we're using, and then go from there.

So what we're going to do first is, you know, safety. And I do want to say thanks to all of you for, for being very cognizant and just really taking that care on the safety front. You know, we We do a lot. We're out on the front lines. It absolutely needs to be, you know, number one on our minds when we're out there, taking the time to do things right and safe.

But of course, you know, we have Amber who's been really leading the way for us with building our safety program and our systems. And so she's got a few things for us to think about. So yeah, let's move over to Amber right away. Yeah, thank you, sir. Amber Schumpert.

I'm the Statewide Safety Systems Manager, for those who don't know me. And, uh, today I just wanted to briefly let everyone know that we are transitioning away from Safety Hub and we're going to HSI for our safety learning needs. Um, so that means all new safety trainings from now on are going to be completed on HSI. Um, Safety Hub records have been captured and they're going to be migrated to the new system. So employees, uh, you're going to receive credit for safety courses that you've already completed.

We have guidance for both supervisors and employees coming out. Uh, they'll be sent out to everybody on Tuesday. And that guidance is going to explain how to access HSI, how to complete your assigned courses, and what supervisor responsibilities are going to be moving forward. We do know that changes to systems can be disruptive, but we're focused on making this transition as smooth as possible, and we're very confident that this change is going to be a positive step for the department. And as a reminder, safety trainings are required, so we appreciate everyone's assistance as we transition over to this new system.

That's— thank you. That's all I have for today. And now I switch it over to Andy. I'm correct. Let's see.

Well, here, I'll take it for a minute. I've got a few more things to say. Sorry, everybody. So the one thing I do want to call out, some just some phenomenal work that people have been doing across the department. It's really been great.

I know on the design and construction side, you know, we're doing good with the programs. We'll talk a little bit more about that and all of our different areas, whether it's Alaska International Airport System and the phenomenal work that's going on there, the Alaska Marine Highway System. I mean, all of you out there that are making that system what it is. I mean, we've had a lot of good that's come of it through a lot of challenges, there's no doubt. Statewide Equipment Fleet, you know, MSCVC out there on the highways and helping and keep those roads safe with the commercial truck industry has been awesome, and I'm going to miss a lot of people, you know, on the administrative side and our cross-functional teams.

But one thing I want to call out, you know, we talked in some of the past ones about our emergency response efforts, you know, with the Typhoon Halong, and that continues. And thank you to all of you out there who continue to work on that. And I mean, we absolutely recognize the extra that went into that to make that work. But we also got called in this past spring up north for along the Colbuck River for community freeze-ups. There were 6 communities that froze up, and again, this was, you know, primarily focused with the department, with our facilities group, you know, with Director Gibson and his team, along with the help of the statewide equipment fleet.

But again, you know, going up and doing things we don't normally do, just trying to help, you know, in rural communities because we're that kind of can-do agency and And I do think we're, you're going to continue to see us, you know, perform in those areas. The Governor continues to ask us to because we are that, we have that ability for contractors and our ability with logistics. It's really something that, you know, we're the best in the state and so that's something we're asked to do. We're always looking for ways to improve on that and we always want to hear from people as we do those things. But really want to recognize, you know, that extra that goes into that.

I did have opportunities to speak with some of our counterparts, my counterpart in Hawaii, because they've been, you know, we're kind of similar, you know, when you think about not so much climate-wise, but being on our own a bit, right? Hawaii's out there in the Pacific Ocean and kind of on their own. We're up here, you know, we're kind of central in the world, I think, but we're kind of on our own over here. And that, you know, when we see what happens, you know, like Hawaii's been doing some enormous precipitation events, landslide-type activities, you know, and just some really pretty extreme conditions. When I talk to my counterpart, I mean, they're being asked to do the same things we are, and it's really because, you know, that's what DOTs do.

So just to recognize that, I think, you know, what we're doing here, you know, others are doing it as well. We're reaching out to learn, you know, you know, from each other and do those things, which is great. We always want to do that, but, you know, it's something that I think in the— as we go forward, you know, it's going to be a thing for us. So just to recognize that. But back to the agenda and those things, we do want to talk about the legislative session this year because it was a— there was a lot that happened this past year, and there were a lot of us that were out there and testifying and these things.

And I do want to say thanks to everyone. We had a lot of good support from all of you and the teams out there for information, but also, you know, being on the stand and being accountable. So, but we're going to pass it over to Andy Mills, our legislative liaison, who has been absolutely giving 150% this past 6 months. So yeah, Andy, take it away. Thank you, Commissioner.

Yeah, Andy Mills in the Commissioner's Office, your, your legislative liaison, and Yeah, it feels like we ran a triathlon here, and so I'll reiterate that the Commissioner said there's a lot of commendable work. I've heard from legislative offices, from storm response to project delivery, road maintenance under resource constraint, from ferries to facilities. Really, DOT is doing a great job in the climate that we're in and with all the constraints and activities going on. So, legislators have, and I try to pass on when they give it to me in writing or tell it to your director verbally, but the number of folks who have really continued to do top-level work is appreciated by those legislators and by their constituents. From a legislative standpoint, we just finished the regular session.

It's now in a special session, as you probably heard. That special session is focused, of course, just on the liquefied natural gas, or LNG, line, which really in many people's eyes is, with other developments, the future of Alaska's resource development revenue. That's what we all certainly hope will benefit our department and others in delivering services to Alaskans. There were a lot of legislative bills. So the Commissioner talked about presentations, we gave over about 40 of them, and again, a lot of subject matter experts at the table.

That can be unnerving, but they did an excellent job. There were a lot of bills, almost 700 introduced, and we were monitoring around 100 of them actively at the table. So again, a lot of folks assisting with that. Really appreciate it. Some of the notable bills that did pass, of course, there was a defined pension bill, which I know a lot of people had interest in.

That was vetoed by the governor because it lacked sort of actuarial analysis to understand what the long-term impacts were. And so you can probably read about that in newspapers, but I know a lot of people had kind of eyes on that. Plus, there was a great presentation several years ago in Senate Finance that talked about defined benefit, defined contribution, and the differences and how Each one of them presents benefits depending on a person's goals in their employment. From a DOT-specific standpoint, because not everyone is focused on the $1,000 dividend with the 200 Energy or the education funding or any of these other major topics, from DOT, Alaska Marine Highway System had some interesting bills on marine fuel and electronic gambling. There's a wide range and some of those did not make it there.

There was an autonomous vehicles bill that was heard quite a bit. We did a lot of work on, understood industry's concerns on that one. There was wildfire mitigation with the right-of-way, airport buffers given development, invasive species councils, Dalton Highway Toll Authority. There was a lot of pieces of legislation, a lot of people that came to the table and worked on that, worked behind the scenes on analysis. Again, really appreciate everyone contributing to what is an intense effort for legislators.

What did pass, there was a contract payments bill that after a certain window of time, there was interest accrued and penalties. For DOT, it's not going to have a significant impact the way it's written, but that did pass. It's awaiting governor's action like any of these pieces of legislation. There was again numerous activities by the legislature on continued disaster declarations, and we— there's a really valuable partnership so that DOT can continue to do the work out west. Given Typhoon Halong.

There was a community transit bill that did pass. It was vetoed by the governor because again, largely in that piece of legislation, DOT is already doing everything that the bill described in the planning realm when it relates to community transit. Data sharing was another bill that did pass, had a lot of different provisions. One of them was really interesting, allowed for CLEAR, which is that TSA sort of pre-TSA or at airports. It's going to allow CLEAR to operate at Ted Stevens Anchorage International.

So a number of interesting provisions that did make it through in the end, a number that did not because either they were not sort of carried by legislators or they weren't ripe for making it past the finish line. So I did want to mention real fast two other small things on the federal scene. The Build America Act, Build America 250 Act, is the 5-year federal Surface reauthorization bill that just was in the House Transportation and Infrastructure Committee. They made amendments. Alaska has some really interesting and good stuff in there, and then broadly speaking, it's an interesting and fairly positive— there's still work to be done.

We're going to continue to work with our congressional delegation. And lastly, before I'm done and turn it to the next speaker, I wanted to say thank you to everybody who's working on our regulation reform effort pursuant to Administrative Order 360. Right-of-way, MNO, aviation, AMHS, MSCVC. There's so many groups that are working on reviewing regulations, which is really our ability to provide our services, make it more clear what we're trying to do to the public and our own staff. So for everyone who's contributing to that, I just really want to say thank you.

So I'll turn it over to the next speaker.

That's Dom. Alright, thanks, Andy. Yeah, Dom Pinon here, Director of Program Management and Administration. I'll talk about our budget bills that just moved through session for next year. The capital budget, we got all the match for fiscal year '27.

We had a couple, couple adjustments on projects. We got everything that we had requested. There was a removal of federal funds for Cascade Point. We do, however, still have the $28.5 million. The design-build contract continues.

That work continues and that project's gonna continue. It was a removal of an allocation of federal funds. And then there was a reduction of an allocation of federal funds for the West Sioux Project, but we continue to work on that project and move it forward. On the operating side, there was a lot of discussion and presentations on a reorganization. The legislature accepted all the budget transactions and thereby accepted that reorganization.

There's a lot of discussion on the record on that. So there's a good, a good bit of backup for that acceptance and that reorganization effort that we'll talk about later in this meeting. We had also asked to restore about $5 million of M&O funds that was cut that we're experiencing in the current year. They restored half of that. So that's going to continue to be, uh, a something that we address, a challenge financially.

Only restoring half of that budget means that we are still facing the challenges with, um, you know, paying equipment, equipment fleet, and paying, uh, utilities and fuel and energy costs. So we're going to be tracking that. That's going to be the probably the biggest risk going into '27. They, they did grant some funds for Huecof contracting for certain circumstances where we can make sure that we can contract and increase our equipment uptime, so that was positive. So overall, it's good to see that moving through.

A positive thing for Alaska Marine Highway, they approved what we call the waterfall model, which provides significant flexibility in the budget and funding process for the Marine Highway, so that's a positive there.

A lot of you know that this year, our current year, We've implemented a lot of cost-saving measures and some additional approvals. We thank you all for assisting us make our budget this year. We had some fluctuations in ICAP revenue that were not anticipated. That happens as a matter of— ICAP's a function of our capital expenditures, so, and we can see effects years later and it fluctuates naturally. Next year it's looking better, so we're going to have a better handle on that next year.

It's going to be more positive. We're also looking at efficiencies on the approval processes for purchases. A lot of you have been— are familiar with the Airtable and the purchase approval process. We're working with the directors and administrative staff to make that easier and more efficient, more effective. But that's been really effective in helping us meet the budget shortfall that we had this year.

Again, going into next year, we're going to be starting the fiscal year '28 and the fiscal year '27 supplemental. Budget request process very soon. We're going to be working with the divisions on that and continuing the, you know, the monitoring of our budget and finances. We're not out of the woods. We didn't get everything we asked for, so we're going to continue to monitor that, make sure we're spending the funds as efficiently as possible and preserving the, you know, putting maintenance and operations and our frontline services first.

I think that's the update on the budget, and feel free to reach out to with the budget staff or myself if you have any questions on that. And I'll pass it back to the Commissioner. Thank you. Yeah, thanks, Tom. And I do want to just reiterate the importance on the budget side and recognizing that, you know, we are using some, you know, this new technology called Airtable to— and it's not that new— but to just have a good positive look at how we're spending and really make sure that, you know, we're we're taking the steps to make the budget this year.

So I do want to just— I appreciate everybody. We recognize, you know, as you try some of these new things, there's some additional work and things at times that goes into it. And so we are committed to make sure that it works the best for everybody, and we want to make, you know, make sure you guys, everyone out there is good. Also, I just wanted to speak to AMHS for a brief minute. You know, we— this was a topic at the legislature, you know, a shortfall at AMHS.

With some of the operating funds because of a grant that hadn't been received. And, you know, we did go to D.C., we did get, you know, make sure that that grant opportunity came through, you know, and so we've applied and now we're waiting for the results. But, you know, we're out there, we're taking those steps when those things that are critical to us come due, you know, we're gonna do what it takes to make sure we're good. And so, so far we're We're doing what we need to do there. So just if anyone is concerned about that.

Now I do want to step into the organizational piece of this. Well, first what I want to do is acknowledge a few people because, you know, things change all the time. That's how the world works. We do have some changes that are happening in our leadership team meeting or our leadership team. The first person I want to acknowledge is Shannon McCarthy, and I think most all of everybody at DOT and across in Alaska that pays attention to DOT knows who Shannon McCarthy is.

She's kind of a name associated with DOT, whether, you know, she wants that or not. But really, you know, Shannon's been with the department a long time, and she is retiring here effective the beginning of next month. And so she will be departing state service, and I just want to really recognize the work that she has done, you know, really with the communications team that's been built and how we share information and what we do there. It's just been Absolutely incredible from my perspective. So Andy Mills is gonna take on some of the temporary duties there as we work to fill that position.

And so, you know, make sure if you're out there, you know, you run into media and whatnot, you know, let's make sure we keep that, you know, with the comms team and we keep that going. And so there'll be guidance coming out. We sent out some messaging this morning, but there'll be more guidance coming out on that. I'm also, Danielle Tessen, who you'll see on these leadership team meetings and has been our communications manager for some time, as well, is departing state service beginning of next month. So that's another big loss for us, but we absolutely appreciate all the work that she has done.

And especially, I know she's reached out to a lot of you folks, you know, when things come up and we want to make sure we're addressing them right away. So there's that. The other one, you know, in South Coast Region, Director Chris Goins, you know, he is going to depart state service. He's made a choice, you know, to move for the benefit of his family and a lot of good reasons there, and which we all do. And so in the meantime, once he leaves, Vicki Roberts will take on that South Coast Region Acting Director role.

And so again, we'll make sure there's information that comes out for everyone that needs that appropriately as well. So those things are happening. Change, you know, that's how we do things. As we go forward through this year, of course, you know, we're, we're going to continue on doing the good work that we're doing. We're going to go strong, you know, through, through the end of this administration, because I know that's, that's the thing out there right now.

It's an election year and there'll be a lot, you know, loaded up with that. But we have a lot of work to do and a lot of good work to do, and so we, we keep going. So that, that as well. Now on this organizational change piece, so we've been through this and maybe we could share the graphic of kind of how we've been looking at the whole department. You know, as we've been working through, you know, the years here, and I would say the past 4 years, we've been changing organizationally as a department, right?

And I think many of you of all out there have been experiencing the change, whether it was, you know, as we kind of converted to this idea of strategic assets with our international airport systems, the Marine Highway systems, and the equipment fleet, and the Division of Facilities, Facilities has gone through some change, you know, MSCVC. And then, you know, we work through this cross-functional teams piece with the conversion to program management administration and development of the DMIO, the Data Modernization Innovation Team. And, you know, a lot of other pieces and parts of that to really, you know, have this— we wanted to make an organizational concept that's as simple as we can for an organization that is as big as we are. 'Cause we're the biggest state agency out there right now, right? So the next steps for us, and so the cross-functional teams are established, the strategic assets, you know, that's established, and we just continue to work within those to make 'em better.

The infrastructure development division, so that was part of this whole legislative process this past year, and so we're getting through that. And right now we actually have an advertisement for an infrastructure development director. And so over the next 3 months, we're going to be, you know, making some changes there so that the Infrastructure Development Director, you know, the direct reports to that will come too. And the important thing here is that the regions remain, you know, the majority of everyone, you know, you're going to continue doing what you're doing. You're not going to see a lot of change except for you're going to see the change in leadership.

And that's, that'll be important. And so people that are, you know, a direct report to a director right now, yeah, that, that those things will change a bit on us. And the same thing will go on the maintenance and operations side. So we'll have a maintenance and operations director, which we've advertised for, and we're going through that hiring process, and it'll be similar, right? The direct reports that are, that are to a director right now, like a regional director, those things will shift on us.

But we, but we want to keep everyone else good and solid doing your jobs. And so we haven't, you know, we're not instituting change in those areas. So as we go forward, what we're doing is we're building a transition plan and it's going to, you know, these things, there's been this question about, well, is everything going to happen all of a sudden July 1st, you know, things all of a sudden are changed? And the answer is no. We're going to take this step by step.

And so all of you that are affected, you know, we'll be reaching out and, you know, we're going to have some good solid plans. So we can take this thing through. And it might take us through into August, you know, to get this established the way we all feel that is good. And so, you know, the idea is to, you know, make us better, you know, really take all these good ideas from all the different regions and whatnot and start bringing them together in a way that, you know, we improve things. So So that's the overall plan right now.

You know, as the legislative session wound up and as you heard from Andy and Dom, you know, those things are approved to move forward, and so we're moving forward. So more on that coming soon, but I think the big takeaway is, you know, it's not going to be drastic change come July 1st. It's going to be— we're going to work our way through this and make sure we take care there. Okay, so with that, we also want to talk about this year's construction season. We've got a lot of good things going on, and we wanted to make sure on the side of our information where everyone can go to find out about the construction projects and whatnot, to remind everybody that we've, you know, we've built something pretty cool out there with what we call APEX.

And I was going to ask Christine Langley to give us a brief, you know, reminder of where all this information exists and plus some of these new things that we have available to us out there as well. So I'll hand it over to Christine.

Thank you.

Christine Langley. I am the Director for Data Modernization and Innovation Division, and I know many of you have participated in some form of the department's planning, whether that is the 10-year plan, a long-range plan. It narrows down into the STIP, which lets us know what we're going to do for the next 3 to 4 years, and then eventually we get to APEX. APEX is the piece that lets the public and each other know what's coming up in this construction season. After that, we dial it down into even more granular information with 511, but today we're going to take a quick look at APEX and we'll start off by making sure that everybody knows how to find it.

So if you have the main DOT page open, you can see on that right-hand side there's the Dig Deep icon in the upper right with the shovel. As soon as you click on Dig Deep, you'll be taken over to APEX. And again, APEX is our Alaska Project Exchange. And so this is what the public is going to see this year. And so that's items that are going out for bid.

That's projects that will, will truly hit the ground this year. Sometimes those can be the second stage of something, or they can be the very first time the public has seen them. And so on this page you can scroll down and there's plenty of time for you to read it, but we'll go over some highlights. So one of the first things you'll notice is that there is a map of Alaska and it has clusters, which is these circles you see in the middle, and you can zoom into any particular project there. You can use the filters at the top to search by borough or census area.

If you're interested in what is in a Senate district or a House district, you can look at it that way. You can search for a project by name that you're familiar with, whether that's a road, a community, however you'd like to get into it. And then a very handy piece to keep in mind is once you start doing things, this little blue circle pops up in the lower right, and that is reset. And that is a very valuable tool if you've accidentally filtered yourself into a corner. Further down, we have printable maps, and this is a first— our first year rolling these out.

And so in the past, we have needed to have consultant help, and we've made one-off maps for specific requests. This is This feature this year allows anyone to come in and print the map that they're interested in, and so they can look through our selection of various regions. If they're interested in the Kenai, that's great. They can print out something that's just tailored to those projects. They could look at the urban area of Anchorage.

They can work their way through. We're hoping that this allows people to help themselves and answers a lot of questions that saves folks work. At the bottom, you can download the data, and so if anybody wants to see, uh, Excel output of all of the information that we have up here this year, they can get that. This whole effort is a joint project that's been done with construction, the comms team, and DMIO's GIS staff, and it not only reduces duplication, but it cuts our costs. And so the moment that information is entered into Astroware Project and a setting is set to let us know that this is a construction project that's outgoing, that exact information moves right on through.

And that reduces the time that our staff has to put in, and it makes sure that we're consistent when we're talking to the public. So if we have titled a project a certain way, if we have written something out once, we don't need to do it again. And we can pop in real quick and take a look at a project on the Kenai. And so if we select this project, It immediately will zoom into that area. It'll highlight the corridor that that project is on so that people who might not be as familiar with the mileposts out there as some of us are can see that graphic.

It'll let you know information about the project. It tells you any current traffic impacts. So this is a traffic impact that was put up for Memorial Day weekend, and this is a way that this construction crew submitted this piece of information electronically. The comms team that supports them has verified that we haven't made any typos, that we're using the right words that we should, that we've said everything that we know the public needs to know, and then they automate that process from our GIS system right into APEX and subsequently into 511. You can also find the official project number here.

You can go to the project's website. So if you're interested in seeing specifically what we have to share on this, you can click that link and it'll it'll take you right to the Kenai Spur Highway project with more information. You can— let's keep going down. You can find a contact on here if you need to get a hold of someone. If you have a safety concern, if you have a question, that information is out here.

And then we have some more information about the region, the Senate District. I think I missed that we have the awarded contract value here as well. And then you can share a link if you wanted to send this to someone else who may be a interested in it, or you can hop right into 511 and see those traffic impacts today. This has been a couple years in the making, this project, and we're very excited to kind of put these last pieces together and automate this information flow all the way through. We know that our construction staff has work to do every day, and so if we can reduce one time that they need to tell us about those traffic impacts and we can make sure that we improve safety by getting that message succinctly and quickly out to the public.

It is definitely a goal of the department, and so we're excited to roll this out. And again, thank you to everyone in construction and our communications staff and our GIS staff who helped make this possible.

Yeah, no, thanks, Christine. And I, I do want to just recognize the good work that's been done there. And this is our staff, these are our folks, and, you know, taking these steps with technology and really making the most of it so we can, you know, show the public all the good things out there. And, you know, with this APEX, you know, there's a lot of other work that's going on, you know, that's been built that's just really impressive. You know, we have the snowplow tracking now, and, you know, a big thanks to everyone who's really been helping on that because that makes a big difference in the wintertime.

When it just comes to the complaints and the management and understanding, you know, for people to understand what we do and why we do the things we do, it's huge. The same with the digital message signs, you know, the big ones on the roads. We're getting those finally, you know, the technology to work in the way it needs to work so we can have consistent messaging across the state. Just all of that. And, you know, as technology across the board, you know, and communications expands, our state becomes smaller in terms of people and being able to talk across our different regions.

So these have been really important initiatives for us that, you know, we want to keep moving on. And so we'll keep that push. And I do just want to say, you know, I know the artificial intelligence piece is a big topic in the world right now. And, you know, we're going to— we're moving forward with some things. We'll keep everybody informed.

You know, we're— a lot of us are using it in our daily work now. Which, you know, I'm supportive of recognizing that, you know, it has its areas where it's useful, and then there's other things where not. And we just gotta— but if we have an opportunity to help us in our work, you know, with how much work we have right now and how many challenges we have, you know, just to keep that in mind. So we'll keep working through that, recognizing that there's, you know, different ways to look at that and how that that can work for us.

The other piece I wanted to hit on, and I know we're going a little bit beyond right now the time, but it is lunchtime, so I'm going to go a little bit longer, I think, on this one. But it's really that looking forward into the future as we go forward, you know, there's going to be challenges. We all know that. I mean, I think, you know, Director Pinon hit on it a bit with the budget and the cost of energy and how that just goes across the board, you know, to so many different things, because when the cost of energy picks up everything, the cost of everything goes up. And so working through that, I think, is going to be important for us, and also recognizing, you know, we're a big state agency, we're out on the front lines, we're interacting with people in a lot of different ways, but recognizing there's going to be stresses out there for people.

I mean, a lot of times when we get into these emergency responses, right, there's a lot of stress out there with people. I think as energy prices go up and we see these things, these stresses come out as well. So just So remember that, you know, when you're out interacting with folks, that if there's things we can do to help, you know, and then we need to think a little different, you know, provided we have a lot of good solid laws, regulations, and rules for how we do things, but, you know, we just need to really make sure we're doing the right things out there for sure. So that's important. And then as we go forward, I think, you know, over the next few weeks, I'm going to be driving a lot of our major highway corridors, and so I will stop by if I can.

You know, sometimes we're driving at odd hours, but to just see how, you know, all of our folks, if you got ideas, you got thoughts you want to throw at us, you know, we're open to that and want to continue down that as well. So really appreciate all the work everyone's doing. You know, I want everyone to make sure, you know, safety number one when you're out there. And all the work that you're doing. And let's have a great summer.

I mean, this is— should be a pretty phenomenal summer with the work that we have out there and all the opportunities and things happening. So thanks, everyone. With that, we'll close it out. And yeah, do what you're doing. Keep Alaska moving, everybody.

All right, see ya.