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Kodiak Borough: Assembly Work Session of October 8, 2026

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Kodiak Borough: Assembly Work Session of October 8, 2026

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0:00
Nova Javier

It was Joey Miles' birthday. I think it was yesterday, but he didn't want any cake or anything like that. He's so humble.

0:10
Caroline Roberts

I think we just need to sing to him since he didn't want cake. Instead of assembly member—. We would like to just sing happy birthday. Thank you so much.

0:27
Nova Javier

Whose birthday is it? It's Jerry Maya, but he didn't want any.

0:33
Codi Allen

Just make sure to say something nice and long. Oh my goodness. We have to sing. You have to sing, Miss Timon. You have a lovely sing.

0:42
Mark Vizcocho

No, put that down. So during the Fairbanks trip, for us to be holding to order, Someone has started singing happy birthday. We thought it was somebody's birthday, but it was his birthday. That is hilarious. I love that.

0:58
Mark Vizcocho

I love that. Oh my gosh. So I don't know if you would see the live feed. I'm gonna remember that. Everyone was trying to call back everybody in, then nobody was paying attention.

1:05
Seema Garoutte

So we started singing happy birthday. I was like, whose birthday is it? Now just get back. It's a good strategy to call the order, right? Yeah, and it puts everybody in a good mood too.

1:17
Seema Garoutte

I always like singing with them when they're at a restaurant, you know. Oh yeah.

1:27
Chris French

Happy birthday, young man. Happy birthday. Your birthday? It's your birthday? It was yesterday.

1:41
Jared Griffin

Happy birthday. Happy birthday! Cheese! I mean, you should be used to that by now, right? Yeah.

1:56
Seema Garoutte

Yeah. No doubt. I'm used to see you dressed to baby. You're dating the back seat now. That's right.

2:01
Jared Griffin

Get in your corner. Get in your corner.

2:12
Nova Javier

We're live on Facebook or YouTube.

2:24
Jared Griffin

What? The mayor? No, no, the Whalers. They went to the cloud. No idea.

2:31
Chris French

This is a free hoodie I got. Oh.

3:00
Chris French

So every time I go to a restaurant—. Also, what I did not know until I visited is that Barrow itself is not really Barrow, because Barrow is one of two communities that merged together. So half is Barrow, half is Browardville. Oh, that's right. Oh my gosh, right, totally forgot that.

3:17
Chris French

It is trippy too. That's what's really better about the language.

3:21
3:27
Chris French

Well, then you have like Kodiak Station. Yeah. You see that pop up? Yeah, but it's very—. Like the census?

3:33
Bo Sedillo-Whiteside

Oh, yes. Well, yeah. Even on Zillow it says Kodiak Station. Yeah, no, because it's an actual like, it's a survey. It's a census survey.

3:42
Caroline Roberts

Yeah, he knows. Yeah. Well, yeah, it's just weird how it like automatically populates or something. Yeah, yeah. Well, like sometimes when you try and do your own shipping, it'll come up, oh yeah, can I ask you $20 for delivery?

3:56
Chris French

Okay. Yeah. It might be because you're closer to Cody. Yeah, I don't think that's—. So what I'm hearing is order everything to your feet.

4:10
Seema Garoutte

Not having to spend money on shipping. And you told me that too. So I did have to ship to her. I'm still waiting. For it.

4:17
Seema Garoutte

It was— she's been out of her house for over a week. I should have seen it. We're not—. Okay.

4:44
Jared Griffin

Agenda? Well, not the—. The first month is going to be—. Oh, we, we don't have anything. Yeah.

4:54
Nova Javier

Oh, guidelines. We don't need guidelines for, for today. Oh, so I can say whatever I want? Off the rails today.

5:03
Nova Javier

How many people are here? No, so thank you. No, we're sorry. That's Okay, John, um, since we do have— we're— it's not predictable tonight, but we do have like the recess rooms, the new one up there for like future regular meetings.

5:24
Seema Garoutte

Okay, thank you. You want to look at it? Uh, yeah.

5:42
Bo Sedillo-Whiteside

Yeah, yeah, rotational work.

5:46
Chris French

Well, it'll be rotational after the first thing because they got to do STO, and it's not like they walk into STO or something right after they do their like checkrides because they've got that and they've only got one other fire in the Oh, I can do that. Where's the thing that says "lambda"?

6:30
Jared Griffin

Oh. You didn't know that's what happens if you— it's like in code. Lambda means your term is ending. You know what? Maybe we should put that in code.

6:45
Nova Javier

I'm not writing that one.

6:51
Seema Garoutte

The attorney has to—. You have to stand.

7:00
Bo Sedillo-Whiteside

See, us three will be at the bar next Thursday having margaritas. It's actually about how I ended up, about how I expect one to do.

7:11
Steve Ames

I ran it through my head a bunch.

7:16
Nova Javier

Okay, are you ready? I'm ready. All right, I'll call the Codex Island Borough Assembly work session of Thursday, October 8th, 2026 to order. Uh, we're going to start off with citizen comments tonight. There's one opportunity for citizen comments at our, uh, work sessions.

7:44
Jared Griffin

Uh, for those who wish to call in, the local number is 907- 3231. Toll-free is 492-9202. And please turn off your radio or any listening device to prevent feedback. For those in the room who wish to speak under Citizens' Comments, please come to the podium and sign in, turn on the microphone, make sure the green light is on before speaking, and speak directly into the mic. And please state your name for the record, addressing all remarks to the Assembly as a body and not to any member thereof.

8:14
Jared Griffin

We will give callers a few seconds.

8:33
Jared Griffin

No calls? Okay. Then we will move on right into Manager's Comments. And here today is our Administrative Official, Siva Garu. Thank you.

8:42
Seema Garoutte

Thank you, Mayor. Um, in the Manager's Department, the Community Development Director and I met with representatives from DOT and PNF and HDR for an update to the Planning Environmental Linkages, or PEL, study. HDR staff went over organization of the study report and explained that they are currently finalizing the recommendation section on alternatives. Once that work is complete, HDR will meet with DOT and PNF and then they will schedule a meeting with KIB staff. The final draft report will be presented to the public at an open house scheduled for November 18th from 4:30 to 7:30 PM at Woman's Bay Fire Hall, and the stakeholder working group will meet from 9:30 to 11:30 AM on— also on the 18th in the Borough Assembly Chambers.

9:35
Seema Garoutte

We are—. We have a treatment plant operator, one starting on October 12th, a maintenance mechanic starting on October 14th. One labor position is starting on also on October 12th, and we have an interview for another labor position tomorrow on October 9th. We are updating both the GIS analyst job description and the human resources job description and hope to be able to advertise for both those positions soon. In finance, for those who did not make a timely first half payment by August 15th, the full 2026 property tax payment is due on or before October 15th.

10:17
Seema Garoutte

The borough accepts the U.S. Postal Service postmark as the payment date for mailed payments. Please be aware that the U.S. Postal Service has changed how date stamping is handled, and mail not may not always receive a postmark in the same manner as it has in the past. If you are mailing payments close to the October 15th deadline, you may want to request that postal staff hand-cancel your envelope to ensure the mailing date is clearly documented.

10:49
Seema Garoutte

For the Property Assessment and Taxation Implementation Project, all the major components for finance implementation are complete. And Tyler is waiting to transition from their implementation team to their transitional support team once assessing is ready. A date for this transaction— or transition has not yet been established. Through the property information link on the borough website, the public can now access and print property tax statements, make payments, view payments and history, and other general information. In IT, IT continues improving the bureau's data backup and discover— disaster recovery systems by migrating to new storage.

11:32
Seema Garoutte

Staff is working with our software vendor to resolve an issue with the assessing department's property sketching program, and staff also reviewed setup procedures for Planning and Zoning Commissioner's mobile devices. They are preparing a request for quotes under the state state and local cybersecurity grant program. Staff is working on security compliance for the borough's card payment system, and planning continues with wireless service for the landfill and the fire department sites onto our new firewall system, where staff is testing new wireless equipment. The GIL— GIS analyst position has been vacant since October 31st. The borough has received an updated salary survey from Gallagher And we'll be advertising the positions.

12:23
Seema Garoutte

And while that position has been vacant, they have been developing procedures for assigning addresses to remote properties and researched an addressing for a remote property on Fog Neck Island. They also continue to evaluate options for renewing the bureau's copy release. In Engineering and Facilities, it's— Solid waste contract is still in negotiations and will be presented to the assembly soon. And fuel spill assistance— the soil was resampled and is cleared for disposal by NWFF at the landfill soil remediation. We sent that information to ADEC for final approval.

13:07
Seema Garoutte

At the long-term care, NWFF sent the final report to ADEC this week. And we are awaiting a response. A change order was issued to extend the contract for the Carlick fuel spill by 1 year at no cost to the borough. Due to driller and barge availability, no work was able to be performed this year.

13:31
Seema Garoutte

Um, small projects and designs have been updated accordingly, and upcoming contracts— there's an RFP for land fill cell 2 design was drafted and will be posted in the coming weeks. Contract FY27-15A, amendment to the KIB facility snow and ice contract to make it an NTE. Sorry, I don't know what that means. Contract number FY202748, the contract with AMC Engineers to cover commissioning of the PKIMC chiller project. That's on tonight.

14:11
Seema Garoutte

So is contract FY20-27-49, 50, and 51. For upcoming meetings, SWAB occurred on October 7th with an update to the board on the status of the bear fence. The ARB meeting that was supposed to take place today was canceled for lack of quorum, and KIBSD meeting was delayed due to staff availability and rescheduled for October 15th. In Community Development, you're going to hear all about the Plan 2045 Assembly review as soon as I get done talking here. For Code Enforcement, Officer Casey Anderson passed his Code Enforcement Officer exam on February 2nd.

14:57
Seema Garoutte

This exam and certification are administered by the International Code Council, and Community Development staff as well as managers Office would like to congratulate Casey on this achievement as he progresses in his role as Code Enforcement Officer. The Planning and Zoning Commission has a work session scheduled for October 14th in the Assembly Chamber starting at 6:30 PM. The Commission will draft— will review draft Chapter 4, Transportation, of the Plan 2045 Comprehensive Plan. They will have a training on housing issues and will conduct a packet review for their October 21st regular meeting. The primary case on that agenda is the land disposal of the two Beaver Lake properties.

15:41
Seema Garoutte

In addition, the Commission will vote for new officers and make a recommendation to the Mayor for an additional member for the Borough's Land Committee.

15:52
Seema Garoutte

In assessing, nothing really changed at all from last week. There is still no Supreme Court case decision with Hannah or the Alutiiq Heritage Foundation. The reconsideration for Kodiak Maritime Museum request was held on October 6th and assessing has 30 days to notify the applicant of their decision. And that's all I have. If you guys have any questions, I would be happy to answer them.

16:20
Jared Griffin

Thank you, Seema. Any questions for Seema?

16:25
Bo Sedillo-Whiteside

Mr. Weisheit. Not necessarily a question, but just wanted to point out that There is a lot of information on here for ENF, not only for— I mean, we have 2 pages through ENF here. We have half a page of projects, small projects. We have designs, a third of a page of projects or contracts, excuse me, all managed by a single department that is critically understaffed right now. They are working extremely long hours.

16:55
Bo Sedillo-Whiteside

Every day, every week, and have been doing so for weeks on end. So I encourage the assembly, whatever we can do to help buffer their workload, let's think about how we can do that. Anyone from future assemblies, they need some breathing room. They're, they're going to burn out on us. We need those folks operating at full capacity.

17:17
Bo Sedillo-Whiteside

So something to be mindful of when we're reading these managers' reports. A very large amount of this workload is falling on a very small amount of people right now. And so I do worry about burnout and sustainable workloads, which currently they do not have sustainable workloads. So something we need to really be mindful of and to the extent we can get ahead of.

17:41
Jared Griffin

Thank you. Anyone else?

17:46
Jared Griffin

Okay. All right. Thank you, Sima. We will move into our first—. Our first agenda item.

17:54
Seema Garoutte

Reviewing Draft Chapter 1 for Plan 2045, the Comprehensive Plan. Ayo Garut. Thank you, Mayor Griffin. This is a review of the first draft of Chapter 1, and Community Development Director Chris French is here to guide us through this discussion.

18:22
Chris French

Thank you.

18:27
Chris French

There should be a couple of attachments to this agenda item for tonight. First, I just want to say good evening to the Mayor and Assembly, and I'm going to state that I'm happy to give a summary of our first draft of Chapter 1, the introduction chapter of Plan 2045, a new comprehensive plan for Kodic, Allenboro. This plan was developed and written by Community Development staff with assistance from the community. One of the attachments is a general design. Your first attachment is a general design for the final document format.

19:00
Chris French

This particular design that's attached to your agenda item provides an example of the kind of the first page of the plan document as well as some covered letter pages for chapters, as well as some examples of interior page designs for interior to chapters, as well as designs for appendices, cover pages, and so on. That gives you kind of an idea about what the final draft plan, once it's in its final format, what that will look like. In addition, you have the actual, as we discussed just a minute ago, the first chapter draft, which is for Chapter 1, which is the introduction and background chapter to the new Comprehensive Plan. And I'm just going to go through briefly some of that, but what I wanted to start with first was just kind of talk about a little bit of the review process first that we will be going through starting with Chapter 1. So the review drafts will have a threefold process that we will be going through.

20:09
Chris French

The Planning and Zoning Commission will review draft chapters and will provide questions and comments to staff. Any needed changes based on those reviews will be— would be administered into the plan and then staff would bring those chapters on to the Assembly for a review of that draft chapter to receive any comments and questions at the Assembly. Has, what would be the result of that? It could be changes to those— that draft chapter. And then once all chapter drafts have been reviewed, staff will make all necessary changes to the different chapters, will create a final draft document which will be in the format that I showed, and this will be released for a 60-day comment period to the public.

20:54
Chris French

During that comment period, staff will hold a number of public open houses both in the evening and probably during the day as well. We haven't finalized that yet. But those will also be opportunities for people to provide comments to staff or ask questions about the draft plan and so on. Once this work is completed, I do expect— suspect that we will have some additional changes based on comments that we receive from the public. And then we will begin the approval process, which requires Review public hearing by the Planning and Zoning Commission and then review and public hearing by the Assembly.

21:33
Chris French

So that's kind of what the process will be moving forward for the Comprehensive Plan review. But tonight we are discussing Chapter 1, which is the Introduction and Background chapter. I did find some errors in some numbering, so I did fix those. I will mention them to you as I go through. So it's— there's actually 7 parts, not 8 parts, which was— Something I did catch as we were going through that.

21:57
Chris French

But there are 7 subparts, and under those subparts, there's numerous sections. And how that is organized, there's the— so, for example, if your section number is 1.1.1, that's Chapter 1, Subpart 1, Section 1. So that's how that's kind of identified through the plan, and that will be— excuse me— how sections are identified through chapters as we go forward. So in Subpart 1.1, that is the discussion of what is a comprehensive plan. In that section, we explain what a plan— comprehensive plan is, as well as how it is organized and also what the state regulatory requirements are for having a comprehensive plan.

22:39
Chris French

In Section 1.1.1, Plan 24 is organized into 11 chapters. And these include land use, housing, transportation, economic development, arts, history, culture, parks, recreation, open space, trails, environment, community facilities, intergovernmental cooperation, and then implementation. There is also 3 appendices related to maps, what we call core graphics, maps that are important to implementation of the plan. Indexes of terms that are used throughout the plan, and then also bibliography, which is source information of both data and other information that's presented in the plan. Section 112 discusses how comprehensive plan is used.

23:28
Chris French

113 Discusses what the goals and objectives and policies— what they are and a discussion of what each one— how it's created and what it's meant to deal with. 114 Discusses relationships to other plans and plan documents. 1.15 Discusses the community engagement process. 1.16 Discusses what the public review process will include. Subpart 1.2 is a review of the borough and its communities within it.

23:53
Chris French

This includes in 1.21 a discussion of geography and natural environment, in 1.22 a discussion of indigenous history of the borough, 1.23, which is not 1.22 the second time, so that was one correction, and then the numbering will be corrected after that. But that will be a review of Russian colonial period, 124 American administration, 125 military development, natural disasters, 126 is the formation of the borough, 127 is the contemporary or current period. Subpart 13 are cities within the borough, and that was included 131 for Akiak, 132 for Kodiak. We do include Karlag in there even though it's not an incorporated city. We still include that in there as a village.

24:36
Chris French

So that's in 133. 134 Is Larson Bay, 135 Old Harbor, 136 Usinki, and 137 Port Lyons. In Subpart 1.4 is discussion of Census Designated Places. I heard some discussion about Kodiak Station earlier, so that's one of the Census Designated Places in the borough. But others include Women's Bay, Chiniak, another correction for Kodiak Station is 143 and the numbers change after that.

25:03
Chris French

But we include also Mill Bay in there. 15 Are other important locations and that's where we talk about places like Pisag Shack, Minnochka Bay area, Alaneva. And then we get into Subpart 16, which are our demographics and other data. And again, that will be broken down by the borough and then the municipalities and Census Designated Places within the borough.

25:27
Chris French

Then further into 1.6, we finish up with the census-designated places. And then 1.7, not 1.8, is the last subpart, and that's where we talk about the visioning process. I think if some of those who were on the Assembly remember when we had the vision statement discussion, that's where this is included. So 1.7.1 is the section on the community vision statement. And then 1.7.2 is a discussion of community principles.

25:56
Chris French

And together the vision statement and guiding principles reflect the shared values of the borough's community and establishes a clear foundation for coordinated, transparent, and forward-looking decision-making as we move through the process and also to be used after the plan is approved. And that's what I have. I know that was a quick run-through. This is really an introduction background chapter, so we are not including any goals, objectives, and policies at this time. Come in the next couple chapters.

26:25
Chris French

One thing I will say, we're going to be skipping around a little bit at first here for some of these chapters because with the departure of our GIS analyst at the borough, there are certain maps that are taking a little bit longer to get done because of time. And so the land use chapter, the housing chapter, and the environment chapter, which all require a lot of data mining and creating of layers for GIS, Those are going to take a little longer to finish. So if you heard when Seema was talking about our next agenda item for the Commission, we were going to be dealing with Chapter 4, which is the transportation and mobility chapter. And that will be the next one that we will talk to the Commission about and would be the next one that would come here to the Assembly. So if you have any questions on anything, I know I covered it really quickly.

27:12
Jared Griffin

This is the long chapters, the introduction background chapter. It is over 130 pages. So, I do appreciate you letting me go through all of that. No, thanks for the overview. I'm sure every single one of us read all 138 pages, and so we're ready to go with questions and comments.

27:31
Jared Griffin

So, I just want to start off. So, let's make our discussion kind of focused on understanding the usefulness and purpose of this particular part of the document, on understanding the data that's in there.

27:47
Jared Griffin

Let's not go into death by revision by committee, you know. That's— if you want to go line by line and start editing this thing, I'd rather us not kind of get into those things. If you have, like, I would recommend just for the, you know, efficiency of our conversation, if you have little tiny things like that that you've noticed as you read, just send them on to Chris individually, I think. But let's look for some substance, substance stuff today.

28:19
Jared Griffin

So I— and again, yeah, we're not— this is not being considered for a formal decision yet. This is just a draft. And so I have really just a couple of things, but I'll open it up to the group first. Let's see if there are any questions or comments.

28:39
Chris French

Ms. Roberts. I know we're just at the beginning in Chapter 1, but how is this information going to be released to the public when it's all put together? So, I mean, we will have it on our website, and then we will do various ways of getting information out to the public where they can access it. So typically what we've done for when we've had public meetings, we put notices in the newspaper. We also did radio ads with KMXT as well.

29:04
Chris French

We put information on our website. We also have people who signed up for email lists that we have for the Comprehensive Plan, so we'll be submitting those. And we also have some organizations who also have newsletters, say, like the Chamber of Commerce, for example, or Discover Kodiak and so on. So we do send it to them as well. We usually have flyers we also post around the community as well.

29:26
Chris French

So all— we'll basically do all those things. If anybody has any other ideas to get how to get the word out better. We'll also do stuff on Facebook too, do Facebook posts. We try to do as many things as we can to try to get the word out about different things. I hope that now that we would have a draft plan out after we're done with all our review here with the Assembly and the Commission, that more people will— with having something to actually react to, we'll get more involvement than we had on the beginning stages, which are more— it's visioning, more getting people's ideas, concerns, things like that.

29:59
Chris French

Sometimes people have a— don't really know what to say when they come to those kind of meetings. They better— they have a better idea what to do when they are responding to something that is in the plan or what they think is something that is not in the plan. So we hope that we will get more involvement because of that.

30:18
Bo Sedillo-Whiteside

Anyone else? Mr. Weisheit. Thank you. And we received an email fairly recently about the concern about public being able to weigh in. So it is hopefully those folks are listening.

30:29
Bo Sedillo-Whiteside

Or can stream this later and understand there is going to be ample opportunity for folks from the community to weigh in throughout the entire process of this plan. I am curious with the recent federal expansions, not— probably won't affect our demographics with the Naval expansion, but with the Coast Guard expansion and the spaceport, I am pretty ignorant for these as far as these types of plans go. Are they fluid in nature? So if we experience— Like, so I'm just— I did read the population demographics and how our workforce is broken down into sectors. Is this something that can be updated as we experience this growth period, or is—.

31:09
Chris French

So I mean, there's various ways it can be updated. Typically— and we don't have this requirement in Alaska. A lot of other states do. So we have a requirement to have a comprehensive plan in order to have zoning. And that's something that's required in Alaska statutes.

31:21
Chris French

However, our requirements of updating comprehensive plan, there isn't a requirement in the state. Law. But the normal one, if you have a state law, usually it's a 5-year review. So the best practice is to always look at your plan every 5 years to update it. In addition, if you have any like major entities who are going to be doing work that fall under your zoning— now, the Coast Guard wouldn't fall under since they are exempt from zoning and they would be exempt from that.

31:45
Chris French

So that's kind of an outlier for us. We can't really address that necessarily in the Comprehensive Plan other than We know population impacts and what that could be for development. But in terms of what happens on Coast Guard land, we can't— or federal land in general, we really can't get involved in that. However, for the spaceport and state-owned land and stuff, we can. And so if there is going to be changes to that, that's something that we can do either through a separate planning process.

32:10
Chris French

You know, as I mentioned in the plan, we do have a section on other plans, things that come in, say, after the Comprehensive Plan is adopted. So whether it's a plan for any of the villages or a plan for a specific area, those can come later. And go through their own public review process and it could be eventually adopted as a part of the Comprehensive Plan. The other step is— or you do the 5-year update review and you're like, oh, we need to do an update for this area of the borough and you could do just an area change to the plan. Great.

32:38
Codi Allen

Thank you.

32:42
Jared Griffin

Anyone else? Okay.

32:49
Jared Griffin

I just have just a couple of things. One, as someone who reviews documents a lot, I have a few other comments that I'll just send to you that are just about like the language and the organization and formatting and stuff. But the introduction, it seems substantial, maybe unusually substantial, or introductions to comprehensive plans usually this long, because I think about, you know, this is going to be part of the public engagement process. And so I just, you know, they are going— we are all going to have to try to consume a large amount of material in order to ask the public, right, to respond and, you know, and absorb all of that.

33:44
Chris French

So is there a way to create not a TL;DR kind of thing, but something that's just an essential planning narrative, kind of like an executive summary or something? So one of the things that the borough manager and I talked about when we first looked at doing how we wanted to handle the Comprehensive Plan, typically your introduction background section is pretty long usually. Because it usually includes a lot of tables and stuff like we have in this one because you're dealing with a lot of background information. It actually can be longer if you have more, say, municipalities within. So, for example, if it's a county comprehensive plan and then you're doing— you have, like, municipalities within that community, then that can cause it to be longer.

34:30
Chris French

For example, if it's— we're a little bit different than Kenai. So Kenai Peninsula, the cities within Kenai can all have their zoning and they all have their own comprehensive plans. Here in the borough where none of the municipalities have their own zoning authority or have their own comprehensive plan, we're kind of the comprehensive plan for everybody. And so the idea of having that information on all the municipalities and all the areas in there that, you know, if it was in another situation, they could have their own plan, we try to cover all of that in that. So that does make the introductory chapter more lengthy.

35:01
Chris French

It makes all of our chapters in many ways, like land use chapter, more lengthy than it would normally be if it was just— a county that had maybe one city in it. So the more municipalities and things you're having to address, the more complicated and the longer it is to deal with. So I would say the 130, I think it's long too, but I also think, you know, we considering the situation that Codegon Borough is in, I think it's a good length. I think the current comp plan that we have is a little short on a lot of the information in terms of background. So I think we tried to do as much as we could.

35:32
Chris French

Another reason why introductions are short is because typically you are hiring consultants and you try to cut down some of the price. And so usually cut down price in the beginning and make it a little shorter. But since your staff is doing it, we are going to do it as best we can. Great. No, I appreciate that.

35:53
Jared Griffin

To Mr. Whiteside's point, in comprehensive plans Is it conventional or possible to maybe look at some planning scenarios? So, right, our baseline right now— we have a baseline and it's declining right now. So I'm assuming that the Comprehensive Plan is being shaped around that assumption or that trend. But with some things that we see coming in on the horizon really, really soon, like, is it possible to make a plan for like or come up with a planning scenario or framework for what does it look like if population is sustained or one in which maybe there might be, you know, growth beyond what we were in the year 2000? I mean, I think a lot of the plan that we are dealing with is a lot of it is status quo from the standpoint of what we can deal with in the borough because we have a limited amount of area that can be has access to sewer and water, that kind of limit— public sewer and water, so that limits us to some of this.

37:03
Chris French

I will say, you know, when you read the information from the state, from Alaska Department of Labor and Workforce Development, which does a lot of our statistical analysis and certainly does most of the population projections for the state, I mean, their expectation with aging population is that when we get to, you know, the 2030 early 2030s, that that will level out, which will cause a lot of leveling out of population decline around the state, which in particular rural areas. Yeah. There could be some in terms of how that impacts with regards to the Coast Guard. So I think there could be a need to do some additional look at that. But I think unless we were going to be planning on doing a lot of infrastructure development, We're probably looking at what we have in terms of to be able to have any kind of density for housing.

37:58
Chris French

It doesn't look like to us that the values are going to go down on your larger lot properties. And so what you're looking for is how do you increase density. We try to do— we're going to be trying to do that in the plan when we talk about land use and housing chapters. And irregardless of whether the Coast Guard expands or not, because in Alaska, there's a couple different things for housing that we worry about, and that's replacement of housing because we have such— our climate is so hard on our existing housing infrastructure. Replacement is definitely something that we worry about.

38:33
Chris French

We also look at affordability and also diversity of housing types. And so there's some things that will be— you'll see in Chapter 2 and 3 that will be dealing with that. Which could also be used to increase density to compensate for potential increases in population as well. Yeah, just don't want to— yeah, make a plan that doesn't, you know, at least acknowledge some of those uncertainties that are— or limit our possibilities. Especially, right, Lands Committee.

39:08
Chris French

Yeah, we thought it was— I mean, it was— kind of uncertain for us to try to build another scenario other than looking at the idea of what we've currently been through, but understanding that once we get to 2030, those numbers should start to level off. It's not dropping off a cliff, but it's trying to meet changes in demographics in particular.

39:30
Jared Griffin

Cool. Okay. All right. Well, thanks. Thanks, Chris.

39:36
Jared Griffin

Thank you.

39:46
Seema Garoutte

Our next item is the Deckard Technologies Rentalscape software update on short-term rentals. Ms. Garoutte. Thank you, Mayor Griffin. Assemblymember Whiteside had requested an update on the current numbers. And I will also update the assembly on how we use RentalScape for my department.

40:08
Seema Garoutte

Our assessing department uses RentalScape primarily as a research tool when processing business personal property accounts for short-term rentals. Before RentalScape, we had to search individual sites like Airbnb or VRBO, going through hundreds of listings and trying to determine which properties were operating as short-term rentals. Rentalscape brings that information together for us and helps identify potential rentals in one place. For example, it may tell us there are 165 identified short-term rentals within 524 listings. We can then work through those properties and make sure that we have business personal property accounts for them.

40:49
Seema Garoutte

We'd also hoped Rentalscape would give us more information about the property owner and the actual rental address. Unfortunately, it doesn't always provide that information, so we still have to do additional research on those individual rental sites. Our busiest times with RentalScape are generally September through November when we're preparing our November 15th business personal property mailings, and again in March during appeals. We also saw a spike in July after tax bills went out and some taxpayers contacted us saying they didn't have short-term rentals, and we went on to RentalScape Rentalscape to show that they did. One thing we learned is that Rentalscape isn't always 100% accurate.

41:31
Seema Garoutte

There have been times when a taxpayer has actually shown us their Airbnb or their VRBO information, and we found that Rentalscape information wasn't correct or was outdated. So we don't treat it as if it's a final answer. We use it as a tool to help us find potential accounts and then verify the information ourselves. Another thing I realized when preparing this report is that we may have a gap in our process. We typically don't look at RentalScape at the beginning of summer and then again in September, and because of that, I don't know if we are missing short-term rentals that only operate during the summer tourist season, which could mean we're missing potential business, um, personal property accounts.

42:11
Seema Garoutte

But I have put it on my calendar, um, to check RentalScape now earlier in the summer. That said, when we compare our September numbers, there doesn't appear to be a significant change. We identified 169 short-term rentals in September of 2025 compared to the 165 in September of 2026. Based on what we've seen over the 3 years we've been tracking it, the overall numbers appear to have, um, remained fairly consistent. Overall, RentalScape has made the initial search much more efficient.

42:46
Seema Garoutte

It doesn't eliminate our research, but it saves us from having to search multiple rental sites and sift through hundreds of listings at one time. Thank you. All right, thank you, Sima. Um, since this is, um, an item brought up by Mr. Whiteside, I'll let Mr. Whiteside speak first. Sure, thank you for that.

43:06
Bo Sedillo-Whiteside

And I was, I was curious about how how much utility this brings your department in making sure that folks should be paying tax on these short-term rentals are doing so. Because we were— we all heard the rumors before this was secured that there were some people kind of flying under the radar with these. So I'm glad it's capturing some of them. But I'm also— it's interesting to see. I suppose I encourage maybe a monthly report on this, just a monthly update.

43:35
Bo Sedillo-Whiteside

It doesn't have to be an extensive, but just that way the assembly can have kind of keep their— keep the updates in mind when we're talking about housing or any potential limitations later down the road. Just having that seasonal update or monthly update so we can capture the seasons, because I mentioned this last week, we're seeing now a lot of longer-term rentals hitting the market, but it's for 8 months, which doesn't do a lot of people much good. When they're looking to settle into the community. So something for folks to think about. This is a great tool to guide those discussions.

44:09
Bo Sedillo-Whiteside

You know, I don't— it's interesting how they package this information. I totally understand why people do this. $430 A night during peak season, it's very lucrative and it's helpful for those that need that income. But we have compounding housing issues, especially with this Coast Guard expansion and our discussion with the Coast Guard in there. They found the same problem on their end, that we're going to have some issues with, with those Coast Guard folks finding housing as well.

44:38
Jeremiah Gardner

But appreciate the update, but encourage maybe more frequent updates so we can just keep up with the info. Would you be okay if that was something I just put in my manager's report? That'd be great. Okay, thank you. Mr. Gardner, I'm just curious, when you're looking at this booking calendar, why are some bookings light blue and some a darker blue?

45:02
Seema Garoutte

I have no idea, but all those are actual bookings. So I— that's where we have found the difference in some outdated information from RentalScape. So we would say when somebody came in and maybe made an appeal that we sent them a business personal property in there saying, no, I haven't had this account, and we go on to RentalScape and say, hey, here, it looks like you were booked these 3 weeks. And it doesn't matter to me if you've booked at all, the fact that you're open, but they'll go and they'll pull up their information from Airbnb or VRBO and it'll show that they opened it January 1st and closed it January 5th. And those bookings on RentalScape really aren't bookings.

45:49
Seema Garoutte

And so I don't know that we pay attention to that part of it. That's not information that we use. Because to me, it doesn't matter. The fact of the matter is, is that on January 1st, you were open for business. I don't care what money you're making.

46:04
Jeremiah Gardner

I don't care if you have no bookings. Your personal property is based on that business being open. And then I'm just curious, does it give you like an easy, easy to look at overview of all of the supposed rentals and the money coming in and how accurate, if you could give it like a letter grade, do you think the software is in, in giving you a fiscal wide view on things? As far as a fiscal wide view, I think that the city of Kodiak would use that more because they're going to base their, their sales tax and all of their information off of that information. I, again, I just don't— it doesn't matter to me how much these people are making when they're doing it.

46:56
Seema Garoutte

That's not what a business personal property account is. We have them as an ADU. It— the— because we allow ADUs in so many areas and stuff like that, it doesn't matter in their assessment. The fact of the matter is that we are assessing— is only using this software to see that business personal property. They have pictures, and so we'll know if somebody isn't reporting all of their stuff, because we'll be like, oh, look, you, you missed the art, or you, you have all of these additional things in there.

47:30
Seema Garoutte

Um, we've been able to contact the city and tell them that they need to get additional utilities. We've helped them in that way. I think assessing uses this software more than community development. I think Chris and Bronwyn both told me that they've logged in one time and then have never logged in again. They're complaint-based, so unless somebody comes in and says, hey, I have this Airbnb, that's when they would look at RentalScape.

48:02
Seema Garoutte

We use it just for a different kind of information. I'm not— I mean, Doris here, she could tell you if finance uses it. I don't know who all has access to it, but we just use it differently, I think. That last question, I was going to ask if the transient housing accommodations tax department— I think that's Sue Zimmerman— do they get access to this at all? It's Dora.

48:28
Seema Garoutte

She's coming up to tell you.

48:34
Dora Cross

I don't have any access to the program, and I haven't seen it. So I've never compared it to what we're currently receiving from anybody. Seems like a powerful tool, but that's all I have. Thanks. Thank you, Ms. Roberts.

48:49
Seema Garoutte

Thank you. Um, there's two different numbers on here identifying 164 and 91 active. Can you explain what the difference between those two is? So it might be that they're active right now. Again, for me, if they were active on January 1st and that could be the difference that Mr. Whiteside was looking for.

49:11
Seema Garoutte

We're still going to assess them and send that notice to them. We do still look at the Airbnb accounts too. The 524 is the big number difference. So if they are listed on Airbnb 3 different ways, because you can have one property that has 3 different Airbnb rentals on it, One time they might do one bedroom, one bathroom. The another time they might do two bedrooms with the kitchen, uh, you know, and then another one where they've turned the garage into another Airbnb.

49:49
Seema Garoutte

Um, so it's still just one property for us, but we don't have to sift through all those listings cuz they have it listed so many different ways and they call 'em different things and So the big number that we look at is the 165 and the 524.

50:12
Jared Griffin

Anyone else?

50:16
Jared Griffin

You know, I don't know if I really have too much. You know, this is really interesting information. It will be interesting to compare season by season and— So you answered my question about is this helpful. That was kind of my— do you, can you, is there a distinction in RentalScape if these are small local operators or like a commercial-scale business?

50:48
Seema Garoutte

So we'll go by the owner as it is on the property. So they could have a business which then The city would look at that rental scape and say, okay, this is something that I need a business license for and it should be in the business's name. We just look at it as the owner and then we'll put on our personal property filing forms what they're doing business as, but it's by owner for us. All right. Our, our biggest problem is trying to figure out where the house is if they don't have a name or if they have like a, a manager.

51:24
Seema Garoutte

Doing the property. So it's saying contact Sima, but Sima doesn't live there. So trying to find it, you have an area, but then you're like, literally, we're searching house by house by house, going down the street on Spruce Cape, trying to— oh, there's the house, you know. And sometimes it's the backyard that they have a picture of, or the side yard. So it takes a lot for us to find some of these houses.

51:49
Jared Griffin

But we find them. So yeah, I see— I think I'm just looking forward to more evidence about if there's still some housing displacement going on, because some of these rentals could just be a basement, an ADU, and we don't have that necessarily broken down for us. That's something you would have to do, like—. If that's something that you want me to do, and to be able to tell you what houses are ADUs and what houses are full houses, I can do that. It would, it would take me a minute.

52:31
Jared Griffin

Sure. And I think if— correct me if I'm wrong— kind of like the policy direction is to see how many whole houses are coming off the market. I don't know, I don't think we're necessarily concerned with in this regard, ADUs and basements and, you know, one-room attached apartments or something like that. So, so maybe next time on the next report, maybe whole houses. Is that— does that make sense with everyone?

53:01
Jared Griffin

I think that's something that we'd be interested in.

53:07
Jared Griffin

Okay, all right. Thank you, Sima. Thank you.

53:13
Jared Griffin

Up next is a review of the 2027 assembly meeting calendar. This was on the previous work session, but no big deal, we can look at it tonight. Madam Clerk. Okay, thank you, Mr. Mayor. The assembly is required to establish and adopt its annual meeting schedule be a resolution.

53:35
Nova Javier

So what you have before you is the draft meeting calendar for next year. Uh, per code, you need to hold your regular meetings on the first and third Thursdays of each month, and then we can also alternate times and locations or postpone or cancel meetings as long as they are properly noticed. So what is before you is the draft, and I just want to note that for scheduling considerations in the past, the past few years at least, we have canceled the second regular meeting in June and also the work session before that. So it's really up to the assembly if you want to cancel it now or if you want to leave it on there, but I know that the manager appreciates the off time after a busy budget schedule. So this is for your review, and if it looks good, we would like to add it to the next regular meeting next week.

54:46
Jared Griffin

Great. I'm here to listen to your suggestions. I support that about the 8th and the 15th. Or I'm sorry, the 10th and the 17th there in June, to go ahead and cancel those. And then also the work session on the second week in December in 2027, that's December 9th, that's the week of AML typically.

55:15
Jared Griffin

And so we usually move that work session to the following week on that Tuesday. Yes, I can move that to the December 14th. On the 14th.

55:27
Jared Griffin

Anything else that you would like to see changed? And then the other thing too, I'm just going to throw this out there because we've received, you know, some community comments on our meetings being at the same time as the City Council too. This is now the time to discuss that if you want to, or keep with, keep with status quo, but anyway, just throw that out there for you.

55:55
Steve Ames

Mr. Ames and then Mr. Weisheit. It is my understanding that the real conflict with the city is they changed their schedule some, and if that is accurate, the information I have received, Then I see no reason why we should change our procedures because they changed theirs. That— if people have conflict problems, complain to them that you changed your schedule and now there is a problem. We didn't create it. Thank you.

56:27
Jared Griffin

Mr. Whiteside. My question was addressed. Well, I thought I would bring it up because we have had some people testify and send emails about that. It's good that we address it, and I agree. For those of us like me who often work in the evening, because I usually have classes in the evening, for me, I can plan one night, you know, definitely on Thursdays, but Tuesday, Thursday, that would really strongly interfere with my work.

56:55
Jared Griffin

So, okay, thanks. Any other possible amendments you're thinking of?

57:03
Nova Javier

Okay. We will add it to the regular meeting next week for adoption. Thank you. Perfect. Okay.

57:10
Jared Griffin

Do you want to break before we head into the packet review or do you want to forge ahead?

57:17
Jared Griffin

Caroline was like, "Forge ahead." So let's forge ahead.

57:25
Jared Griffin

One note that Amy sent me is we have a lot of contracts dealing with the hospital. And actually, we have a lot of contracts in general. And Cody, I believe, will not be available next week at next week's meeting. So today is the day for questions for Cody.

57:45
Jared Griffin

So we will start off with the public hearing for Ordinance No. FY 2027-11, Reestablishing Boards, Committees, and Commissions as Established in the KIB Code of Ordinances, Title II, Administration and Personnel. Chapter 2.100, Boards, Committees, and Commissions. Madam Clerk. Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

58:06
Nova Javier

All boards and committees, um, per our code, um, expires and they need to be reestablished every 3 years. So, um, this is the year to reestablish them. And, um, so what we did is that once, um, you introduced this ordinance at the last meeting, we contacted all the boards and committees members in case they would like to submit comments to the assembly. We also did advertising for the public hearing. So far we haven't received any comments.

58:43
Jared Griffin

And that is all I have about this item, and I would be happy to answer any questions that you may have. Thank you, Nova. Yes, these all look important to me. Any questions or comments? Discussion?

58:59
Jared Griffin

Okay. Public hearing next week.

59:05
Jared Griffin

Moving into contracts, 1 of 5 right now. So the first one, contract number FY2027-15A, amending contract number FY2027-15, KIB Facility Snow Removal, Ice Control, and Sweeping with MK Enterprises to include a $125,000 not to exceed limit. Um, Sima. Thank you, Mayor. Unfortunately, when I approved this item, I did too hastily.

59:33
Seema Garoutte

So while the agenda statement will be corrected for next week's meeting, our ENF director Cody Allen is here to walk through what's supposed to be on there. If in football terms I'm correct, I fumbled on this one, and he picked it up and is going to run with it. So great, thank you. Seema's too kind. Uh, no, I was actually out of town, and so these contracts that you see before you were quite rushed to get on the agenda due to the timeliness.

1:00:02
Codi Allen

So it was not her fault, it was mine. Um, we were in Anchorage for medical, um, and I did not catch the variance, but it should read, uh, subject contract FY 2027-15A, amending contract FY 2027-15 KIB Facility Snow Removal, Ice Control, and Sweeping with MK Enterprises to include a $250,000 not-to-exceed limit. That is the correction there. The recommendation is moved to authorize the Borough Manager to execute contract FY 2027-15 Alpha, amending contract 2027-15 B for the KIB Facility Snow Removal, Ice Control, and Sweeping contract with MK Enterprises to include a $250,000 not-to-exceed limit. $250,000 Being because it's for 2 years, not 1.

1:00:49
Codi Allen

The insurance company representing MK Enterprises, LLC has requested monetary value of the contract in order to provide a performance bond, which I believe is required for this sort of work for the borough. Staff looked at the historical cost of snow removal for each fiscal year and calculated the average cost per year and doubled that number to account for the entire term of the contract. Below are the numbers used to calculate the amount requested in Amendment Number 1. You'll see that over the years it kind of fluctuates between two numbers. That's typical for the snow.

1:01:18
Codi Allen

Staff compared the averages for the past 3 years, which was $115,883, and the averages for the past 6 years, $114,036. Added a $10,000 contingency. We simply rounded up and doubled it for the 2-year term. So this would essentially correct that contract to a not-to-exceed. To afford us to be able to get that performance bond unless, in the case that the contractor was unable to perform the work, we would tap into that performance bond to hire somebody that could and not have to pay for the work twice.

1:01:49
Jared Griffin

All right. Thank you. Any discussion or questions for Cody? Mr. Ames.

1:01:55
Steve Ames

Again, it's my understanding that they're doing— Or the proposed is MK will do borough facilities and has been removed from the school properties, but if needed they're going to step in. How does that address the limit and things like that? Because I have great fears with the equipment they have. The school is not going to be able to do their parking lots if we get any reasonable snowstorm. That's a great question.

1:02:31
Codi Allen

Um, the school district is very ambitious, um, and their goals, they're lofty to say the least. Um, so a correction there though is that the contract is not written as such as that we omitted that scope of work. The scope of work is still included, it's just on time and materials basis. The difference is the way that the language is written. My position calls out the contractor for the facilities that the borough owns and manages.

1:02:53
Codi Allen

We're working with the school district equivalent of my position to have an agreement with the contractor to call that out and it will come out of, I believe it is in-kind services for that funding. And so essentially it will come— these numbers will remain the same, but it will come from the same contract, a different funding source. Thank you.

1:03:14
Jared Griffin

Anyone else? Okay. All right.

1:03:20
Jared Griffin

Thank you, everyone. Moving on to the next one. Contract number FY2027-48, approval of engineering implementation support and commissioning for the— for PKIMC chiller project with AMC Engineers in the amount of $102,005.

1:03:39
Seema Garoutte

All right, go team. All right, so Providence Kodiak Island Medical Center has been working with AMC Engineers since the beginning of the chiller project. For design and consultant services as part of the use of RHTP funding. Ownership of their professional services contract needs to transition to the Kodiak Island Borough. To walk you through this and explain all of the details, our ENF Director Cody Allen is here.

1:04:06
Seema Garoutte

This is a pass.

1:04:09
Codi Allen

Yes, hot potato. Um, so essentially what you have in front of you, uh, we applied for the Rural Health Transformation Program funding grant. Um, we receive that grant funding. However, and with any grant, there comes stipulations to spend the money. Providence, if you remember, was working on this project through their own procurement.

1:04:29
Codi Allen

So as you begin to look at all the different contracts before you, you're going to notice that they're different, unique in every way from something that has ever been presented to you from my department. This will be a first of its kind, and the reason being the grant requires the Kodiak Island Borough as the applicant to be the one that actually writes the checks to the people that are doing the work. So far, what we've identified, things that are not considered demolition— there's still some loose language around what is or is not considered construction for this grant, but the items before you are the things that we've already had vetted, saying that like the architectural engineering services for this contract will finish out what's called commissioning and construction administration work, um, CXCA. And so that's the work that's going to require to get us from idea through implementation. It's a very short-term project, only 6 months duration once the items get here.

1:05:23
Codi Allen

That's the big long lead time. But this will be everything from building and zoning compliance, permitting for the contractor support, all the way down to the commissioning and turning the machine on, testing it, training staff, and all that. So, okay, questions? Mr. Gardner. How much, if any, money is not being covered by the Rural Health Grant?

1:05:50
Codi Allen

It's a great question. Um, we're jumping ahead, but that is in a future agenda item discussion. The total funding that's going to come out of the RNR budget is $437,736.

1:06:03
Codi Allen

The total project valuation is $4,239,160.

1:06:07
Codi Allen

$3,816,000, And the RNR is going to cover $3,801,380, assuming that all the requirements of the contracts align with the grant language.

1:06:21
Caroline Roberts

Ms. Roberts. This kind of applies to all the contracts on here. Uh, can you remind us of when the funding needs to be spent by to be in alignment with that? So, um, we essentially have to have There's multiple different things that going on right now.

1:06:40
Codi Allen

This is being pushed forward because of the long lead time for the materials. And so in the Davis— the Davis agenda item, which I believe is next on the agenda, you'll see a little bit more about the scheduling, the sequencing of that. They have 4 subcontractors, and we're being told multiple different things. It's kind of hard because we're not physically managing the project, we're just managing the money. And so we get the information as it comes.

1:07:03
Codi Allen

Although I have great conversations with the project management team, anywhere from 30 to 50 weeks is what we've been told. We're looking at potentially getting that sooner, but we have to get the approval to spend the funds first.

1:07:19
Jared Griffin

Anything else on this item? All right, let's jump to the next one, which is about, um, uh, contract FY 2027-49 installation of the chiller with Davis Construction Engineers. Should I just— okay, all right. It's yours, Cody. Yes.

1:07:37
Codi Allen

So Providence Kodiak Island Medical Center along with AMC Engineers have been working with Davis Constructor and Engineers for the implementation of the chiller replacement renovation as part of the use of the RHTP funding. Ownership of the professional services contracts need to be transitioned to the Kodiak Island Borough. You are going to see some unique wording there in that terminology that is not normal for a project of this nature, we are using the term implementation and professional services as Davis is both constructors and engineers, and so they align with RHTP funding, as is my understanding, because they have the ability to do both. And so this is essentially the removal of the existing unit that no longer is able to obtain the Freon and be able to maintain, installation of a new concrete pad, a new— exterior chiller, and then what they refer to as a fire department connection that needs to be removed and relocated on the exterior building. All the mechanical piping equipment and roof mounts, electrical modifications to the building, fireproofing and patching, permitting inspection.

1:08:40
Codi Allen

And then there's a winter weather provision in here that they've increased the cost because we have to tint and tarp for the concrete work, which is an additional $45,747. That will be basically required to meet the timeline, to Councilmember Roberts' comments there. And then the $206,910 for demolition is not covered by the RHTP, so that's funding that we're going to have to pull out of the RNR, which will be a direct cost to that. And then you'll also see the subcontractor breakdown. This is a Providence Davis preferred vendor, and so it was not a public procurement per se, but they have their own individual validation and processes to get to this point.

1:09:28
Codi Allen

But these people at Davis have been basically on board since the design concept at every phase for this, and you'll also see on the pages beginning— I think 4 back, you'll see all the spreadsheet report. We had them break it down all the way to the penny on the different items, and per code, we did build in the 10% contingency for this.

1:09:56
Jared Griffin

Questions on this one?

1:10:01
Jared Griffin

Okay, seeing none, the next contract is for project management services from Providence, for the Providence Chiller Project.

1:10:13
Codi Allen

Okay. The Bureau is proceeding with the chiller project if everything goes according to plan and this passes vote next week. And so using the RHTP funding, to Assemblymember Whiteside's comments earlier in the meeting, our department is short-staffed and we already have somewhere in the avenue of $8 to $12 million in projects. That we're managing. As we haven't been involved in this project, this is very hard to step in and take ownership of it with the nuances and the relationships that are already built.

1:10:43
Codi Allen

So we're looking at just trying to transition the contractual relationships and then manage the ins and outs for funding. This would be what would be referred to per code as professional services agreement with Providence. We would be paying the $230,826 for them to monitor the project schedule and budget, review submittals, payment applications, documentation of project progress, redlines, and all the typical things that my department and me specifically would do for the borough. However, we just don't have the time or people to do that. It is a large ask and a large sum of money, but Providence has a fixed rate that they charge for this type of thing.

1:11:25
Codi Allen

This would be R&R funding.

1:11:30
Steve Ames

Questions? Mr. Engels. So Providence will basically be self-inspecting the job and make sure it's constructed properly? So Providence has an entire division. It won't be Providence Kodiak Island staff.

1:11:48
Codi Allen

I'm sure they'll be working with Tyler and the team over there. Having previously worked for Providence, I'm pretty intimately familiar with the process. But they have an entire division that's known as RESO. And so the RESO team, real estate strategy or something else, they're just like mother prob is what we call them. That team is great.

1:12:10
Codi Allen

They have people that come down that have every different specialty to inspect and manage all different assets. They have Karen Stevens, John Bush. Karen Stevens used to previously work for Architects Alaska, so they have like licensed architects and things on their team that would support this.

1:12:29
Steve Ames

Okay. Well, I mean, it sounds like they have a good team. I'm just more used to on projects the inspector is totally independent from both the contracting and the end user to make sure everything goes smoothly. And so it's a little unusual for the end user to have their own team. But the future item that you're going to see next is for the special inspection, which will be the inspections that are third-party dependent.

1:12:55
Codi Allen

And so even here at the Bureau though, myself previously as just the project manager/inspector, I would do both for— as the owner's representative. This would be a third party for the owner, as the owner acting on behalf per code as the owner's representative, or what we refer to as the project manager inspector. Thank you. Mr. Carter. It's more of a comment, less of a question, but this feels, uh, to me it feels odd like we're augmenting Providence's payroll to manage something that they've been asking for for quite some time, and I'm not very sure how I feel about this.

1:13:37
Bo Sedillo-Whiteside

Mr. Whiteside. Thank you, Mike. The amount that we're considering for them taking on project management, for lack of a better term, thinking about our STAIR discussion back in the spring, this better be the Ferrari of project management teams for $230,000. But I am more than happy to support it if it means that's one less thing that our ENF department has to manage right now. So I'm willing to support it despite the fact that I do feel like Providence is fleecing us a bit on this one.

1:14:15
Chris French

Mr. Woods and then Mr. Garner and Mr. Haynes. I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, but if we are having to outsource the project management aspect of it, it's almost in a way an idiot tax to us for not actually adequately staffing the ENF Department. Don't get me wrong, it probably ultimately would be cheaper than staffing full positions to go this way. With benefits and stuff over the course of a year.

1:14:41
Codi Allen

Yeah. You can correct me whenever I'm wrong, or you can pull me aside and tell me I'm an idiot. It's fine. Like, we'll be friends afterward, I promise. Is roughly 5% of the project budget, and so you're looking at a 6-month duration project.

1:14:57
Codi Allen

So that is $41,000 per month. That is the fee that you are paying. I know what I make per year, and so I would argue that or see you next Thursday for margaritas. You don't have to wait for margaritas with me, man. Mr. Gardner.

1:15:16
Jeremiah Gardner

Yeah, I agree with you, Bo, that I do want to support E&F, but something feels really fishy about this. There's way too much money, um, and, uh, I just don't see it. Um, but I think I'll take the time to have you educate me a little bit further, um, outside of a meeting and whatnot. But as it stands, this is a hard, hard pill to swallow for me. Mr. Ains.

1:15:46
Steve Ames

Um, Well, having talked to some people about being an inspector as a job, I was approached.

1:15:58
Steve Ames

And from what I can gather in information here in Kodiak, independent ones are anywhere from $160 to about $220 an hour. And if it's $220 an hour, you divide that, that's only 1,000 hours, and in 6 months they can easily burn 1,000 hours if they're doing their proper work.

1:16:20
Jared Griffin

The number is high, but like it or not, it seems to be the going rate. Thank you. And, and as Cody said, keep in mind this is coming from the R&R fund. This is not coming from our general fund. It's not coming from ENF's fund.

1:16:36
Jared Griffin

This is money that Providence has paid into it. So They're kind of paying themselves in a way, but your points are absolutely taken for sure. All right, well then let's look at the final PKIMC one. Here we go. This is for the special inspection services.

1:16:57
Codi Allen

Anything else to add? Yeah, so this is just— these are the mandatory inspections. The project management's a little bit, I guess, optional. Potentially, but we have a history— I would just say we have a history of not providing good inspections, and that leads us to issues like our ARB meeting today. We're discussing the pool, so just keep that in mind as you make a decision next week while I'm not here.

1:17:21
Codi Allen

Please think about that. But the test labs, this is the required sampling and special inspections that will be needed in order to provide the quality insurance. And quality control, and it's only for the amount of $37,325.

1:17:38
Codi Allen

On the worst-case scenario, I just wanted to be completely clear and transparent that the base was $21,045.

1:17:46
Codi Allen

Spent a great deal of time working with the project team at Providence on figuring out the logistics of all this and trying to make it where it makes sense. And so we added a time and materials as needed for the additional inspections for a total of $16,280. Just, um, knowing that the schedule is going to be so compressed and so rapid-paced, that's why you see the 10% contingencies and the options for us to exercise things that are happening in the moment so we don't have to wait for a meeting to come back. So, and this one's paid by the grant, uh, so this one, no, this one is, uh, yes, actually, yeah, RHTP, it is. We're hoping it's going to be paid by the grant.

1:18:25
Jeremiah Gardner

We still have to clarify that because of the services being too in line with construction, but I believe it will be. Gotcha. Okay, Mr. Gardner. What safeguards do we have with Davis if, um, they don't do well on the special inspection and need to go back, um, do repairs or replacements? Is that written into their contract?

1:18:47
Codi Allen

So that would be the project manager's responsibility to manage that element of corrective action in the project and would not come before the Assembly or me. I would be a part of that, or my department would be a part of that, but that would be what you're referring to as project management and construction management specifically, which is part of the scope for Providence.

1:19:12
1:19:14
Jared Griffin

Anyone else?

1:19:18
Bo Sedillo-Whiteside

Okay. Thank you, Cody, for everything.

1:19:24
Nova Javier

Next, we have— we will have one resolution next week ratifying and certifying the results of the election. Anything to add, Nova? We are also adding the assembly calendar, which will be adopted by resolution as well. Oh, that's right. And then for the ratifying and certifying the results, the Canvas team will convene on Wednesday next week.

1:19:49
Nova Javier

And we will start at 9:00 AM. And because of the third and the fourth candidates that are vying for the third place, we're expecting to be doing a recount if their votes are within 2%. So it will be an automatic recount. I should have an update at the end of the day on Wednesday. Tuesday to the assembly.

1:20:17
Nova Javier

If, if we get it done, which I hope we do get it done, I will be emailing out the resolution to everyone. I will be posting it on Facebook and also updating our agenda item in the packet. So I already talked to my Canvas team and asked them to be prepared to work a long day on Wednesday next week. I'd be happy to answer any questions that you may have. Any questions?

1:20:50
Jared Griffin

Um, just, I think, communicate our thanks to the canvassing team. Yeah, I will. Um, two ordinances next week. Um, ordinance number FY2027-01A, amending ordinance FY2027-01, fiscal year '27 budget, by amending budgets and appropriations to account for various revenues that are over budget. Providing for additional expenditures and moving funds between projects.

1:21:15
Seema Garoutte

Um, this is our first quarter, so, uh, Ms. Garutte. Thank you, Mayor Griffin. This ordinance presents the net changes for additional funding requests which occurred during the current fiscal year for items or circumstances not known or expected during the initial creation of the FY 2027 budget or project estimates. Here with us is Finance Director Dora Cross to explain all the numbers to you.

1:21:48
Dora Cross

Good evening.

1:21:51
Dora Cross

Before I rattle through these, do you have any questions or preference in how I do this? Because it gets pretty long. No? Good. Hit us.

1:22:04
Dora Cross

Overall, there's 9 items on this. 5 Of them are for completion and closeout, a return of funds, or gathering of more funds to finish the expenses out. Or there's 4 for adding additional funding for— to current projects. The first one is a request to transfer $210,000 from the general fund to the Capital Project Long-Term Care Fuel Spill Closeout Project. The second one is a transfer request for $28,660 from the Capital Project Fisheries Economic Development Project to the general fund for the nonprofit funding to the University of Fairbanks.

1:22:42
Dora Cross

The third one is a request to return $45,376.90 from the Capital Project Fund Elevator Modernization Project the Kodiak Middle School to buildings and ground fund because it's completed. Next one is a request for a return of $94,978.13 from the capital project fund Bayside classroom addition project to the fire protection area fund due to the cancellation of the project. The next one is a request to return $8,303 from the capital project fund Mill Bay Beach stair replacement project to the Renewal and Replacement Fund due to completion of the project. Next one is a return— a request to return $53,699.86 from the Capital Project Elevator Modernization at the hospital project to the Hospital Fund due to completion of the project. The next one is a request to transfer $50,000 from the Solid Waste Collection and Disposal Fund to the Capital Project Fund for the Leechate Lagoon Cleanout Project.

1:23:51
Dora Cross

Almost done. Another transfer request of $300,000 from the Solid Waste Collection and Disposal Fund to the Capital Project Fund for the landfill municipal waste perimeter fence project. Excuse me. And the last one is a request for a transfer of $50,000 from the Kodiak Fisheries Research Center Fund to the Capital Project Fund for the Kodiak Fisheries Research Center HVAC system investigation and upgrade project.

1:24:27
Jared Griffin

Okay. Any questions? Any questions?

1:24:31
Jared Griffin

Thank you. Can you— do you have it with you? These are big transfers from the solid waste fund. Where does that fund sit after these? After these transfers?

1:24:46
Dora Cross

I can get that for you. It's positive at the moment. Even after these transfers, it would still be positive at the moment. Correct. Okay, cool.

1:24:55
Jared Griffin

Thanks. Anyone else? All right. Thank you, Dora. Next ordinance, FY2027-10, rezoning Cliff Point Estates Oceanfront Edition Number 1, Track B and Track C. Cliff Point Estates Oceanfront Edition, number 3, Track D, from RR-2 Rural Residential 2, District 2C Conservation District.

1:25:19
Seema Garoutte

Um, SEMA— oh, it's Chris. Chris, it's me. Okay, I'm not even going to pass it off. No, you got it. The Planning and Zoning Commission held a public hearing on case number 27-8 at its regular meeting on September 16th.

1:25:35
Seema Garoutte

The commission voted 4-0 with 2 members absent and 1 vacant seat to forward a recommendation of approval to the Borough Assembly. The applicant submitted an application to rezone Cliff Point Estates Edition No. 1, Tracts B and C, and Cliff Point Edition No. 3, Tract D from RR-2 Rural Residential District to the C Conservation District. This rezone is related to the previous rezone filed under Case No.

1:26:04
Seema Garoutte

-005, Which was approved by the Borough Assembly on August 12th via Ordinance No. FY27-7. The Commission recommended approval of this rezoned request based on the following findings: that the subject properties are located within the Conservation Land Use designation of the Future Land Use Map and that the Future Land Use Map designation is directly related to the Sea Conservation District. So if you look at your packet, Chris put a little map in there, and the red ones labeled B, C, and D are the ones that we are rezoning now. All of the yellow lots to the left of B and C were rezoned to Sea Conservation already, so this is just filling in those gaps to make that whole— I don't know, you want to call it an arm— all zoned Conservation.

1:27:07
Caroline Roberts

Okay. Thank you. Any questions? Ms. Roberts. Can you give us some kindergarten-level knowledge of the difference between Rural, Residential, and Conservation?

1:27:20
Seema Garoutte

It just is for larger lots. The requirement for Conservation makes it that you have to have a 5-acre lot. Lot. When they did this Cliff Point subdivision, everybody said, oh, we'll just make these smaller lots and then we can zone them RR-2. Cliff Point actually has a lot of HOA requirements, and they're finding that instead of having these smaller lots, people are asking to— for a bigger lot size.

1:27:48
Seema Garoutte

And putting them into that conservation zoning district allows for that. They They can still build houses and do what they want. It just is— allows for the larger lots without having to be on the RR-2 manifest for building a house. Is there any more restrictions for building in that different zone? No.

1:28:08
Seema Garoutte

You can have a single-family home. Okay. They actually have 2 of these already under contract, so it was in their best interest to just go ahead and to actually sell the lots. Thank you. Mr.

1:28:23
Seema Garoutte

Ames, correct me if I'm wrong, but it does actually create a restriction that it can't be subdivided at all unless it's totally rezoned, correct? So rezoning it from the RR2 made it that the conservation has a 5-acre limit, so they will not be able to make any of these lots smaller than 5 acres unless they rezone it back. And, and they could. So if I bought one of these lots, I could go into the commission and say I want to rezone it. It would have to be approved through the commission and through you guys again.

1:29:02
Steve Ames

Yes, but generally with the conservation lot, that's got to be 5 acres. It's not as easy a process to subdivide it. It's expensive. Thank you. Anyone else?

1:29:20
Jared Griffin

All right. Thank you, Seema. And then the last two items are presentation to outgoing elected officials and then the administration of oath to newly elected officials. Anything to add, Nova? I just want to thank Steve, Bo, and Caroline for your service.

1:29:41
Nova Javier

It's been an honor working with you. Thank you. You will be missed. Thank you.

1:29:49
Jared Griffin

All right, well then, let's jump back over to the work session agenda, and we will do Clerk's Comments.

1:30:01
Nova Javier

I would like to give an elections update. So after months of careful planning and preparation, we have now moved beyond Election Day. We still have a few weeks left to complete our remaining tasks, which include canvassing on Wednesday, October 14th. Um, canvassing is open to the public, and anyone who wishes to observe is more than welcome. Uh, we will kick things off at 9:00 AM here in the Assembly Chambers.

1:30:28
Nova Javier

I also want to take this moment to express my gratitude to our polling place workers and our receiving team, um, for conducting the election with the utmost integrity and professionalism. I would like to also in advance thank our canvas team who will be working long hours next Wednesday. I want to extend my thanks to my team, Lena and Irene. I feel grateful every day to work alongside side such supportive team members. Even though elections can be exhausting, they always perform their duties with a smile and positive attitude.

1:31:05
Nova Javier

We will be assisting the state for the general election on November 3rd. Absentee voting for this upcoming election will start on October 19th and will last until November 2nd. So those who are leaving town, um, don't think that you're going to miss voting on November 3rd, you can come in starting on October 19th and vote. Absentee voting hours will be from 10 AM to 4 PM here in the assembly chambers. And I'm going to keep it short, and that's all I have.

1:31:37
Nova Javier

I'd be happy to answer any questions that you may have. Great. Any questions for Nova?

1:31:45
Jared Griffin

Okay. All right. Thank you. Assemblymember comments. We'll start down there at the end with Mr.

1:31:54
Chris French

Woods. Very little to comment. I just hope that everybody who decided to engage in opening day of waterfowl season, uh, did obey all federal, state, local laws and enjoyed themselves greatly. Thank you. Ms. Roberts.

1:32:08
Caroline Roberts

Thank you. I want to thank clerk staff for all the effort that went into the election. I know there's a lot of work that goes into that, so thank you to you and your team, NOVA. Also, thank you to everyone who voted. Just a reminder, voting is not over.

1:32:22
Caroline Roberts

There is another one in November, so come out and vote for that one because it makes a difference. I am excited to see the RHDP chiller project getting rolling, and thanks for all the work that's going into that, Cody, and everyone in the Bureau and Providence side as well. Yeah, thank you. All right, thank you. Mr. Whiteside.

1:32:43
Bo Sedillo-Whiteside

Thank you. Uh, nice job again, Nova, you and your team. Another seamless election. Uh, it's always such a— just an easy thing to do. I don't dread voting because it's just so seamless and easy, and everyone's always so welcoming and friendly, and we get candy, and, uh, yeah, it's great.

1:32:59
Bo Sedillo-Whiteside

Um, fantastic job. Everything was very well organized, and we're appreciative of how easy you make it look while understanding it's not an easy task. So Thank you for that. And I wanted to thank our ENF department once again. They are probably going to be working while we go home and spend time with our families, and they have been doing so for weeks on end, working late nights, weekends, away from their friends and family.

1:33:24
Bo Sedillo-Whiteside

So thank you for everything you do, Cody, you and your team. Please let them know when you see this, see them. I'm certainly thinking of them and grateful for everything y'all are doing to help keep us afloat.

1:33:37
Steve Ames

Thank you. Mr. Ames. Um, a couple of things. Um, I'd like to thank the clerk, the assistants, the volunteers, everybody who was involved in the election. Even though I was not reelected, I would like to thank all the people who did vote for me.

1:33:57
Steve Ames

Um, then I have a couple Concerns for the borough in the future I'd like to express. One is I do not have a problem per se with two assembly members being able to put an issue in front of the lawyers. I understand the reason for being only two is if there is possibly— I'm not saying, and this is Not about this one, isn't this is about general. So don't anyone take it as if I'm after them. Um, you know, if something weird is going on here and two people don't like it but all the others are band together, I do think two people is unacceptable.

1:34:41
Steve Ames

But I think it's very important that the assembly know ahead of time that it is happening so that if we get questioned or anything else and it is borough money being spent, we should be informed that such a thing is happening. And if that takes a yellow sheet, then someone should do it. If I start one now, it doesn't do much good.

1:35:05
Steve Ames

Um, I'll leave my other issue for next week.

1:35:11
Mark Vizcocho

Thank you. Mr. Vizcocho. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I just want to say thank you to Mr. Ames, Mr. Whiteside, and Mrs. Roberts for your service. Um, it's some big shoes to fill.

1:35:22
Mark Vizcocho

I'd also thank you to Madam Clerk and her staff, and also to Cody and Miss Cross. Thank you for what you do. And also to Miss Zima. It's a very exciting year for me, but I hope I can fill the shoes that you all three left behind, Tom. And to the community, Thank you for coming out.

1:35:45
Mark Vizcocho

I wish that outcome was much higher, but the point is everybody that wanted to make their voice heard voted. That's what matters. And again, our Kodak High School Bears are playing tomorrow, and it's been a while since the Kodak High School football team has been in the playoffs. So please go out and support. I know it's going to be cold.

1:36:08
Jeremiah Gardner

Oh yeah, also on the road, let's be careful because the roads are getting icy in the morning. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Gardner. I'm going to echo some of my colleagues, so I'll be quick. Um, Nova, you're in your staff, awesome job on the elections.

1:36:22
Jeremiah Gardner

Thank you, Cody. I know we're killing you right now. Please keep breathing. We need you. And let us know what we can do to lighten your load.

1:36:34
Jeremiah Gardner

Same for you, Dora. And then to you three outgoing members, uh, Each of you in your own way has been an enlightening individual. You have educated me. I have disagreed with you sometimes, but it's always been an absolute pleasure. And thank you for your service.

1:36:55
Jeremiah Gardner

I am very nervous about having, you know, so many new assembly members because it took so long for me to even begin to understand what was happening. In here, and you guys are fantastic. Thank you. Great. Thank you.

1:37:14
Jared Griffin

I just have just a couple of things. Amy and I met with Captain Hood from Base Kodiak and his EO. We had a nice lunch with them, with the city mayor, talked about their growth and some of the issues that we shared with our federal during our federal visit a few weeks ago. This seems like this command is the most open command that I've seen to communication and collaboration and partnering on making sure that what works for the Coast Guard is what's going to work for Kodiak. And these are two guys who love Kodiak a lot.

1:37:59
Jared Griffin

So I think Amy and I left Left that meeting very encouraged about that partnership. I attended the first meeting of the Southwest Transportation Regional Planning Organization today. We got presentations from DOT and others on how this kind of group works and gave us a lot of good pointers on the STIP. And some other things. We're just getting started.

1:38:31
Jared Griffin

This is just kind of like our first organizational kind of meeting. Our next meeting is going to be in the first week of March at the— for the SWAMC conference. We're going to take a day before the SWAMC conference and— in March and have a meeting and hopefully organize ourselves a little bit better. This is an organization that has a lot of grant funding behind it. So they are going to— this organization is going to need a staff.

1:39:00
Jared Griffin

So we will be looking for an Executive Director for that. But there is a lot of money in transportation right now. A lot being asked and a lot that might be available. So I think it is good for our region to organize around this and come up with a plan.

1:39:20
Jared Griffin

A one— oh, community note. Is that KMXT will not be live broadcasting beginning Saturday and through Wednesday. If and we will be rebroadcasting KUCB from Unalaska, but you will still hear Kodiak news stories on it and PSAs and those kinds of things. But really for our purposes here, for emergency services, KMXT will be working with KVOK in case there just happens to be an emergency over those 5 days. Our staff will be working together, so to make sure everybody stays informed.

1:40:06
Jared Griffin

And then, of course, I just have thanks, like, thanks all around to the staff and NOVA, to the election workers. Again, another fine event, so thank you, everyone. And with that, at 8:02, I will adjourn.

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