Assembly Special Meeting of May 28, 2026

Okay. All right. We will call the Coney Island Borough Assembly special meeting to order, May 28th at 8:46 p.m. Roll call, please.

Mr. Ames. Here. Mr. Gardner. Here. Mr. Johnson.

Here. Ms. Roberts. Here. Mr. Smiley. Here.

Mr. Whiteside. Here. Mr. Woods. Here. Mayor Griffin.

Here. You have a quorum. Okay, um, we will come to our— this is our only citizens comment period for the, uh, for the special meeting. Um, for those who wish to call in, the local number is 907-486-3231, toll-free 1-855-492-9202. Please mute your radio or streaming device to prevent feedback.

For those in the room who wish to speak under citizens' comments, please sign in at the podium, turn on the microphone, make sure the green light is on before speaking, and speak directly into the mic. And please state your name for the record and direct all remarks to the Assembly as a whole.

I'll wait a few seconds for a call.

Come on down.

Good evening, Assembly members. My name is Oliver Wilson. I am the CEO of Kodiak Community Health Center. I just came to just share with the Assembly. So you guys know I've been here several weeks about our capital expansion project.

And I know that the assembly is going to go into an executive session. I just want to really, you know, talk about KCHC and the work we do and really just implore the assembly to really think about the needs of our community, your constituents here, as well as the impact that we are creating in the community as I believe the assembly is going to be making a decision. So that's why I'm here today and really just appreciative of all the work you guys are doing here for our community. Thank you.

Okay, um, our item 429, uh, we need to vote to approve the, uh, these two resolutions on Boarding Center FY 2026-31, adopting the budget for FY 2027 and appropriating from all borough funds, um, and then Boarding Center FY 2027-32, Report from Madam Manager. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. So this is that— those two ordinances that are chicken and egg, and they both kind of have to pass together. So we're going to have to kind of talk to them about them, um, both together. As you can see, we've been able to fill in all of the numbers on both of the ordinances.

You'll see in the first ordinance, that is just your very basic overview with all the totals for all the different general fund departments and then all of the different funds. Um, and then the— all of the budget worksheet information is behind that. And then when we move on to the title of the ordinance that I feel like someone got set up earlier when they were asked to read out the titles, um, for, um, that one, we're able to fill in, um, once the information from Tyler came in, we were able to fill in all of the numbers except for the actual mill rate information. So As a reminder for the overall budget, we decided, or one of the things that the budget was built on, we did not use facilities fund interest. If we do want to use facility fund interest, any of that, we can use up to 85%, but that can only be used for debt service or renewal and replacement.

Tonight is the night where I get to talk to you about MAPTR and funding MAPTR and What we collect this year in property tax is the amount that we can collect next year in property tax. And so, um, if we collect an amount that's lower than our max, then that becomes our max for the next year, plus CPI and new construction and all the things that are on the beautiful infographic on the wall. Um, Dora is in the building, so if there are scenarios that we want to run to figure out mill rates, Um, if we take a break, I can go down and have her plug those numbers in so we can see where we're at for mill rates right now. For a mill rate, our current mill rate in the borough is 8.91. As the budget stands right now, without using any facilities fund interest, we are about at a 9.36.

Hopefully that is enough information to start the conversation. Mr. Mayor, if I may make a motion. Do you want to discuss before making a motion? Or just to—. Oh, yes.

Thank you. Get things kicked off here. Yes, thank you. Move to advance Ordinance No. FY2027-01 to public hearing at the next regular meeting of the Assembly.

Second. It's been moved and seconded. Staff just— No, I'm just kidding. We went out of order there. Thank you, Mr. Weisheit.

All right, someone discuss— Mr. Smiley. On line 201, education support, you have $14,263,593. Is that the number we agreed to last week? That is not that number. If you look at page 17 of your packet, so what happens there is your total that was Approved last week was $13,779,556.

Um, the cash total is $650,000 less than that, and then, um, the rest of the money gets given to the school district in monthly installments. Um, that number is higher because that fund is in a deficit of $484,000, so that has to get added to that. Amount. That's a— it does make that number look weird for sure. Also, I would like to move to use 75% of the interest on the stuff for Fund 276, isn't it, to R&R.

Is there a second? Is there a second? So it's 75% of that. Of the $1.77 million. I'll second.

Okay, it's been moved and seconded. Mr. Smiley, would you like to speak more to your amendment? We need that cash to lower the mill rate a little bit and to make sure we're doing MAPTR the right way.

It does meet your objective of doing MAPTR the right way. It does not meet your objective of necessarily lowering the mill rate. Okay. Yes. Then making MAPTR whole.

Yes. Closer to whole, absolutely. Can we get like a dollar amount what that would look like on line 276? Right now it is $1.7 million, $730,000. So adding 75% of what is available from the facilities fund.

Would change that to what? About $1,331,250.

I don't think it's that simple of a calculation because we can only use 85% and you want to use 75% of the 85%.

Yeah, exactly.

Building that formula.

And then I'm assuming that you're going to want to know what that does to the mill rate, right? Okay. So I know that we just came out of a break. That's going to require another break before I do that. Is there anything else that you would like to see?

Well, but there is a motion on the table, and so we really can't move on until we satisfy that motion. So we—. There is two motions.

Well, true, yeah, there is a motion to amend.

So, yeah, Mr. Weisinger. I'm curious, so do we— well, we can determine that amount, not necessarily how it would affect for any mill rate discussions, but, um, were you able to calculate that, Madam Manager? If not, I can work on it. I can get a number. I just would like the finance director to— I don't want to base any calculations off of Amy's brain when I have the accountant downstairs.

Was that— there was $1.73 million. $1.776. $1.7 Is my memory. Mayor? Ms.

Rains.

We can take a break, but can we just all say hi to each other while she gets that number? Not officially taking a break. Uh-huh.

I don't know. I would hate to have a discussion, to keep a discussion going with the Manager indisposed on another amendment. Can she call down on her phone? I don't think we need to. I think she is working on that right now.

Well, one thing that once that amount is known, a follow-up I would have for the Manager would be Is that revenue— does it have a place or a purpose this fiscal year? If we're going to pull that out of interest, do we have a project that it would fund this fiscal year? East roof, yes. Okay, great.

We would also need to use that— that wouldn't cover East roof, but we do have that MOA with the school district on that extra little over $600,000 to go to that as well. That would probably overlap fiscal year '27 into '28 because that is a summer of '27 project. Mr. Johnson.

I make a privileged motion to take a 5-minute recess. Could I read what the code says about recess? I was reading Robert's rules. So we follow Robert's rules. However, if there's a specific section in our code.

We need to follow our code. So recess says in 23100, the chair may call a recess not to exceed 20 minutes at any time during a meeting to determine a rule of order, or at the request of a majority of the assembly. So it would require 4 assembly members to request. The chair may call a recess at any time between items of business. So you— the chair may call a recess between items of business, so you can't do it right in the middle of a motion.

But the chair may call a recess not to exceed 20 minutes at any time during a meeting to determine a rule of order, or at the request of 4 assembly members. So 4 assembly members would need to West. So do I call a roll— call for a roll call or just poll like this? Who is in favor? Okay.

I see plenty to take a no longer than 20-minute recess. That won't take that long. To do some math. Okay. Thank you.

And then so we will have— oh, Dora already has the number to me.

I know what the number would be, but I will go figure out what that mill rate would be and bring that, because I think that is the important part of the conversation. So do you want to write down the number while I have it, because inquiring minds want to know. It is $1,132,391.25.

Okay. So we will go into recess while we figure out the mill rate implications. And then we'll be back. I'll be back. All right, more snacks.

We're all just eating, we're all just eating junk for dinner tonight. Ruining my dinner that I'm going to eat at midnight. First, I was actually going to mention to you, it looks like that she said to bring up the marijuana thing again. Anybody need a water? I'll take one.

At least two.

I will work with the ordinance, like work on the wording on that. I'll be okay. I'll put you in here. We can talk about it before. Yeah, we got to start.

I'm gonna be gone. Yeah, I could hear you.

Jared, how do we figure out whether people are cheating on ADU rentals?

How are you going to start a whole conversation like that? I don't know. I don't know. We can have like a policy discussion. Pretty hard to cheat.

What, do we go to Airbnb and ask them? Okay, we are playing software. I had no idea there was like paperwork, and I needed to file. You're right, you're right.

Were you saying you got the boat on the water already? I have heard lots of depression.

I have heard lots of depressing things, like a plague of codfish and a dermis. I have heard there's a lot of cod.

It upsets me. They're good to eat. Yeah, the first 5, not the second 75. The same's true of salmon. I eat a lot more salmon than I do cod.

I do too. I eat a lot of rockfish. Not anymore you don't, not with one rockfish a day, not with one black bass a day. I buy them from— oh, I don't fish them anymore. Oh, you did set a 20-minute clock.

I did, but then it shut down on me, so I had to—. So then what happens? I think that rig is kind of fun for those who like know how to go like suss them out. Like, you're allowed a total of 5 rockfish, but only 1 can be a black bass, only 1 can be a yelloweye. Which, like, it's kind of fun.

He's got nowhere to go. Yeah, big giant pantheon. How many dead black bass are going to be floating in the, uh, trollers? A lot. Like a majority.

Like, you think anybody who's trolling is going to stop to freaking do a deepwater release on them things? If I catch it trolling, it's not a deepwater hookup. Yeah, well, but you have to release it at depth of capture 100 feet. Yeah, but I don't—. I troll at 95, so you got to drop it back to 95, which I always do.

Every time, exclusively. I do it when I catch them on topwater, right? You'll probably have a different composition. I'll stick them just to spite them. Yeah, that's true.

Can you imagine somebody with a freaking like 2-pound cod weight trying to drop one of them things off the back? Oh God, the mess. Oh, that's why we have to call a recess between— I can do that between any item. Yes, and we get— I get those Post-it notes sometimes. Yellowfin rockfish?

Because I like that. What's that? Have you tried eating a yellowfin rockfish? No. I swear they taste a little different.

Like more akin to like a tiger. Hmm. Oh, you get a bunch of them over there by termination point, just like a cloud. But they seem to be more and more than last few years, as I understand it.

I fished over by my cabin, and I tell you, I put down a skate line and pulled up like 18 dogfish. Really? Would you pass off in a previous life, right? That's just fucking depressing. They were like, what's your cabin?

Over by Dry Spruce. Okay. There was a couple caught on there that were all eaten up by the big dogfish. Oh God. You know, I had kind of a weird one escape last year.

I set it over there in like 50 feet of water over there off of, uh, in front of Gibbon in Cove. It was in the water, no kidding, 2 hours, all salmon bellies. And I'm kind of anal retentive about how I like double hook my stuff. I come back 2 hours later after I ran over to like buoy 5, caught my lingcod, came back, pulled it. I had 26 hooks on the skate, right?

I had one 30-pound chicken, one skate, and 24 empty hooks. Octopus in the sand. Maybe not, but I—. That fast? 24 Of them?

I never seen that. That's like—. It's just what I always assume when I bring up a bunch of empty hooks is octopus. They can get awful big. You've baited it well so it doesn't fall off.

Well, yeah, I've run it twice through the skin. Yeah. Do you— any other microphones that are on?

Drop my 2-year-old off at the— and drop my 2-year-old off at the gymnasium.

Okay, we are at our 20-minute limit for recess, but it sounds like staff needs a little bit more time. So would the— is there a majority of the assembly would like to extend the recess? Nod your head, thumbs up. Okay, yes, we have unanimous consent to extend or add another recess, and we'll be back.

Okay, um, all right, we are back from recess.

Hello, so the finance director and I Went through a lot of scenarios. I did a couple of printouts for everyone of the mill rate spreadsheet that we use.

It's not intuitive. If anyone wants to come in next week, and I'm serious about this, and sit down and walk through scenarios and see how this works, Dora and I are for it. So, um, you're going to get a handout and we'll make sure it makes it into supplemental materials so that the public can see it. When we put money into facility or into R&R, it causes us to collect, it doesn't affect the mill rate in a positive way. It makes it go up.

And so the two scenarios you're gonna get are keeping the mill rate the same and making the mill rate go down. And then what that looks like. And so once you have the sheets, I will explain.

Thank you, Dora. Thank you.

Thank you. You gave me two. You should have two. Oh, thank you.

Dora's here to guide me through this. Okay, so you have two options in front of you. One has a total mill rate of $8.59. It doesn't have the writing on the bottom that says with salaries included, but both of these do have salaries included, and what that means is In previous versions of the budget, I didn't have the union negotiated salaries in there because the union didn't know what my cap was, but now they do. And by adding those now, that's in the MAPTR limit, and it helps us fully fund MAPTR and takes it out of the need to do a budget amendment.

So it's money that we're going to pay out anyways, but now it's inside of the MAPTR formula, which is good. Um, would you like to hear about the 859 or the 891 first? $859,000. $859,000. I'm not surprised by that answer.

In this scenario, we have taken 75% of the interest, which I think, Mr. Whiteside, you're going to find that your number was correct, the $1,332,225, because that's 75% of the available interest. We are— at first, we're looking at 75% of the available 85%, which really ended up being 63%, so we went back to the full 75%. Mr. Smiley, was that your intention? Okay, so you'll see in the— we applied that towards debt service, which takes that $1.3 million out of the debt service need. Um, our total bond debt payment is that $5.2 million number.

And again, if you want to see these formulas work in action, please come see us. Um, that because that takes that out of there, we do not need property tax revenue to cover debt service, and that lowers the mill rate. And that's why we lower our mill rate from 891 to 859. That does not put money into R&R, but in order to do the projects that we have scheduled, we have enough money in that fund to cover that. So I think that it's important to keep continuing adding money to that to ensure that we have money for projects, but it's not doom and gloom, we can't do anything if we don't do that.

The other sheet that you have in front of you is a mill rate of 891. It is the same placement of that $1.3 million into debt service education, but it also adds $625,000 into facilities maintenance. So that is funding R&R projects. The positive part of that is that yellow highlighted number. Our MAPTR limit is $17.7 million.

In the 8.91 mill rate scenario, we are at almost $17.3, so we're closer to fully funding MAPTR. In the 8.59 scenario on that first page, we're at $16.6 million, so we're $1.1 million, which is about what we did not fund the school district. And that makes sense in this scenario because the budget was built around fully funding MAPTER and fully funding the school district. So you're going to see how those align. So there are every variety of, um, alternate scenario that you can imagine by putting in any number that you can think of into facilities maintenance that will change the mill rate.

So I guess for as we go into next week, we are just going to need to decide is the priority lowering the mill rate, is the priority funding, putting money into R&R and facilities maintenance, or a combination of both. When I ran the scenario that Mr. Smiley first asked and we put a large amount into that facility's maintenance line. And if we have to collect property tax for that, that just— it makes the mill rate go up instead of down, which seems counterintuitive because we didn't fund the school district their full amount. So, um, confusing. I hope that it's not overly confusing, but if you have questions, Dora's here, I'm here, we're happy to help answer we can run different scenarios and have them— I don't want to make the public sick or you sit through multiple 20-minute breaks.

We can do that. We can have stuff ready for next week. We can prepare stuff and send it out before the meeting, however you want the discussion to continue.

Well, we do have an amendment that's on the floor right now. Mr. Smiley, um, the current mill rate is 8.951. 8.91. 8.91. So in one scenario, the scenario where we devote the 75% of Fund 276 to facilities maintenance, we end up at the same mill rate.

Um, no, that scenario with 8.91 is still putting that money towards debt service, the facilities fund interest towards debt service, but we're also adding $625,000. To facilities maintenance. Okay, makes sense.

Which is, um, well, I'll wait till it's discussed. Mr. Gardner? I am aggressively in favor of Option A and lowering the mill rate a little bit. I think everybody could use a little relief the way things are going, so I will be voting no on Mr. Smiley's amendment, but I would like to push the motion to adopt Option Option A when that time comes.

Any other discussion? Mr. Smiley. I think the more important issue here is the amount that we're directed towards MAPTR for next year. We really hamstring ourselves at $16.665, whereas at $17.290, we're doing a lot better for next year. We don't know how we're going to— whether we're going to have to spend it, but it's better to have it in the bank and be able to do it next year.

Thank you. Mr. Woods. I'm a big fan of putting money into the facilities fund. Our budget this year didn't include any for that. $625,000 Is not a tremendous amount of money, but that's— I'd much rather have that.

And like Mr. Smiley said, leaves a little bit more room with MAPTR for next year.

Any other discussion before we vote on the amendment? Mr. Ames.

As much as I'd like to lower the mill rate, we're basically keeping it the same if we go with Option B. I'd like to see the mill rate lowered, but I'm Because of MAPTR and putting money away, I would be comfortable with keeping it the same. So I would be comfortable with Option B.

Mr. Whiteside. I'm struggling with either option right now, but just for the sake of clarity for ourselves and the public, if we were to keep the mill rate static, that doesn't mean people's Property taxes do not go up. Assessments go up. That means you are paying more. So just to make sure that's clear for folks, because I know that's been a frustration that people have brought to my attention, is that, well, you lowered the mill rate 2 years in a row, but my property taxes went up.

So just to be abundantly clear, if we keep— if we do decide to keep the mill rate static at 8.91, that does not mean that your property taxes will not go up. It's based on your assessment as well. That's correct. And, uh, the city has a mill rate, your service area has a mill rate, and none of those went down as far as I know. Um, so yeah, correct.

Okay, I'm seeing no further discussion. Um, Madam Clerk, can you remind us of the motion, the amendment that we are voting on? So the motion that is on the floor is to move 75% of Fund 276 to RNR.

Okay. That is— that was what Mr. Smiley's motion was. These scenarios both have that money going towards debt service instead. Yeah. Would you like to change the motion to debt service instead of R&R.

Do we have a second on the amendment to the amendment? Okay, it's been moved and seconded. Okay, good. I'm glad we clarified that. So this is the second amendment changing R&R to debt service.

Okay, and would you like discussion or are you ready to vote? Ready to move? I think we are— oh, I just want to make sure everybody is clear on what we are—. Yeah, I mean, are we at this point voting on Option A, Option B, or neither? Neither.

Okay.

Mr. Weisheit. So as I understand it, the amendment is looking to allocate some of the interest, 75% of the interest available or eligible into the— from the facilities fund into debt services, and then that will increase revenue availability for us to then toggle where that goes to an extent, and it will give us flexibility for these options. Madam Manager is nodding. Dr. Smiley, is that your intent? As I understand Do you understand it?

Yep. Does that help? So a yes vote opens us up to discussing these options in a way.

Okay. Okay. Roll call vote. Is everyone clear where we are at as of the moment? Okay.

Because there are three motions on the floor.

So the primary motion is to move to advanced this to public hearing. The second motion was the motion made by Assemblymember Smiley to move 75% of the Fund 276 to debt service. And then we had another amendment just to correct that wording, debt serv— uh, RNR to debt service. And that's what you're going to be voting on today. Service.

Yeah, yeah, to debt service. Mr. Whiteside. I just want to be very specific and say your vote is going to be for to move 75% of the interest earned on that fund, not 75% of the fund. No, that would mean much different things. Okay, okay.

Mr. Ames? Yes. Mr. Gardner? Yes. Mr. Johnson?

Yes. Miss Roberts? Yes. Mr. Smiley? Yes.

Mr. Whiteside? Yes. Mr. Woods? Yes. Would anyone like to change their vote?

Motion carries unanimously. Now we're back to the first amendment. Would you like me to read the first amendment before you vote? Okay, so this one is to move 75% of the interest earned of Fund 276 6 to now debt service. Okay, not RNR, debt service.

Okay, are you ready for the vote? Yes. Mr. Gardner? Yes. Mr. Johnson?

Yes. Ms. Roberts? Yes. Mr. Smiley? Yes.

Mr. Whiteside? Yes. Mr. Woods? Yes. Mr. Ames?

Yes. Would anyone like to change their vote? Motion passes unanimously.

Okay, more discussion. Yes, Manager Williams. The numbers that are in front of you once again do include adding the, um, staff, um, cost of living raise that would take place on July 1st. So while these numbers are correct on these sheets, we're going to have to update the budget sheets that go along with these ordinances. So you will see a new version of that with new numbers next week.

So we wanted— I thought that was an easy way to help fund MAPDR, but it is going to require an update of the worksheets that are behind there. Okay.

Okay. What is the will of the Assembly? More discussion? Mr. Woods. At this point, can we even advance the main motion without amendment?

I don't think officially that we can. Advance the—. Yeah, we can.

The main motion is on the table, but now— but, but to move it to public hearing, unless there are more amendments. Mr. Whiteside? Yes, for clarity, the motion we're discussing now is just to move— to advance the ordinance to public hearing at the next regular meeting. That's what we're discussing now.

Caller question. I mean, Mr. Ames.

Um, maybe I skipped a bit of attention, but moving the ordinance, but have we decided mill rate or anything, or does that happen at the next meeting? It can begin to happen now. It's part of the next ordinance as well, setting that mill rate, and then that will help fill out those, um, the X's that are in those yellow sections on the next ordinance too. That's why that's that chicken and egg, like I can't do one until the other one is filled. Mr. Whiteside, um, for the sake of our wonderful finance director and Madam Manager, if you have other mill rate ideas in mind for next time we bring this up, please give them as much notice as possible.

That way our nice director doesn't have to scurry downstairs in the middle of our meeting. Mr. Johnson. Thank you. I will take the bait. I'll make a motion at the next meeting that we will amend the budget by adding $475,000 $125,481 to line 201.

That will fully fund MAPTR and put the difference in the MAPTR fund from what we collect under Scenario B and what is left with MAPTR back to the education fund. I don't expect it to pass, but it will be worth a try. Any more discussion before we vote on the motion to advance to public hearing. Will you say— sorry, will you repeat that one more time so I can—. Yeah, it was just we talked about the importance of funding to MAPTR.

And so it looks like there is $475,481 left under MAPTR under Scenario B, so. Thank you.

Okay. Roll call vote on the main motion. Okay, so, um, just to note that your packets will be updated for next week and you're going to have a corrected version of the ordinance that would reflect the numbers that you adopted tonight, that you amended tonight. Okay, okay, this is for the main motion. Mr. Johnson?

Yes. Ms. Roberts? Yes. Mr. Smiley? Yes.

Mr. Whiteside? Yes. Mr. Woods? Yes. Mr. Ames?

Yes. Mr. Gardner? Yes. Would anyone like to change their vote? Motion passes unanimously.

All right, our next ordinance for introduction is Ordinance Number FY 2027-02, and this one I will read for the record: Receiving the 2026 Certified Real and Personal Property Tax Roll Levying Ad Valorem Property taxes for tax year 2026 consisting of an area-wide tax, Women's Bay Fire Protection Area tax, a Women's Bay Road Service Area tax, a Bayview Road Service Area tax, a Fire Protection Service Area Number 1, a Manaschka Road, uh, Bay Road Service Area tax, a tax in Service Area Number 1 roads, a Woodland Acres Streetlight Service Area, a Service Area Number 2 tax, an Airport Fire Protection Service Area, a Trinity Island Streetlight Service Area tax, and a tax in the Mission Lake Tidegate Service Area, Levying a non ad valorem commercial aircraft tax, providing for the collection of taxes due in 2026, and setting the date when taxes become delinquent. Is there a motion? Move to advance ordinance number FY 2027-02 to public hearing at the next regular meeting of the assembly. Second. It's been moved and seconded.

Anything else on this one, Manager Williams? This is when the assembly officially accepts the certified roll that the assessor puts much work into, and that's what the holdup was on why these got moved until this week. So that number is in there, and that's correct. And then, um, would you like us to pre-fill something in Section 2 there with either Scenario A or Scenario B with the 859 or the 891, or do you just want to continue that conversation next week and fill it in, um, the night of.

Mr. Weisheit. 8.75 Would be interesting to see. So I can run a scenario for 8.75 and send out that sheet on what that looks like for everyone. Um, I understand the liking of round numbers, and then that you— we would have the information before we go to the meeting. Okay.

Thank you. So you'll have at this point 4 scenarios if we include Mr. Johnson's? Okay.

4 Pre-prepared scenarios, which is the best kind of scenario. Yes, yes, I agree. But again, like, there is a whole world of options, and so as long as you are willing to continue to take 20-minute breaks, we will be able to expand beyond those 4. But just so we have those set so you can see what those mill rates were so you understand the impact of the decision.

Any other discussion? Mr. Smiley.

The Mission Lake tidegate, do we have a fund to replace that at someplace? They are not—. We are not charging them any—. They have chose themselves not to collect any tax. And so that means that they don't need any.

What do we do if the Tide Gate fails? They have a fund balance, correct? That's why they're not— they have about $60,000 in their fund balance. That's why they're choosing not to collect this year, because they don't have a need for it, which is what we encourage all services. Like, if you do not need to collect tax, don't.

That's—. I thought the replacement of the gate The last time we did it was much more than $60,000. The latest update they had 2 years ago from Dave was that that money was sufficient to, to replace it with a different kind of gate that was less expensive, but that would be sufficient to cover that. Whether it is, I don't know. Can we have somebody look into that?

Um, like Cody? Yes. Do you want that information before this meeting or—. No. Okay, I just think we need—.

You're just curious. Okay. They—. The meeting I went to, I explained to them the danger is if it fails, then their mill rate the following year is going to be terrible looking because it's going to recover that, and they didn't have— the residents didn't have a problem with that.

They will. Any other questions or discussion? All right, roll call vote on the motion, please. Ms. Roberts? Yes.

Mr. Smiley? Yes. Mr. Whiteside? Yes. Mr. Woods?

Yes. Mr. Ames? Yes. Mr. Gardner? Yes.

Mr. Johnson? Yes. Would anyone like to change their vote? Motion passes unanimously. All right.

Thank you, everybody. Last item tonight is an Executive Session discussion of Notice of Federal Interest pertaining to the Kodiak Community Health Center. Mr. Whiteside. Move to convene into Executive Session to discuss the Notice of Federal Interest pertaining to the Kodiak Community Health Center under the authority of KIBC Kodiak Island Borough Code 2.30.030, which is a matter that the immediate public knowledge of which would tend to affect adversely the finances of the borough. Second.

It's been moved and seconded. Staff report, Manager Williams.

Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Um, we have, um, two phases to a discussion about the notice of federal interest that were being requested to provide so that the KCHD project can, can continue. And I just need to fill in the assembly with information that I know how it could possibly affect borough finances in the future. And so I asked for an executive session and be able to do that.

Any discussion before we vote? All right, roll call vote on the motion, please. Mr. Smiley? Yes. Mr. Whiteside?

Yes. Mr. Woods? Yes. Mr. Ames? Yes.

Mr. Gardner? Yes. Mr. Johnson? Yes. Ms. Roberts?

Yes. Would anyone like to change their vote? Motion carries unanimously. And now we need a motion to Make some invitations. Mr. Weisheit.

Move to invite the Mayor, Assembly, Manager, and Clerk into Executive Session. Second. It has been moved and seconded. Voice vote on the motion. All in favor say aye.

Aye. Any opposed, same sign. Okay. We will be moving into Executive Session. We will take a 3-minute break to prepare for that.

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