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CBJ Comprehensive Plan Update | Advisory Committee Meeting #1

Alaska News • September 2, 2025 • 111 min

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CBJ Comprehensive Plan Update | Advisory Committee Meeting #1

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0:00
Jill Lahorn

Uh, I'm Jill— Thanks, Kevin. I'll start over. Uh, thank you everyone for being here. I think we have almost the entire committee with us this evening, so that's really exciting. Uh, I'm Jill Lahorn.

0:11
Jill Lahorn

I'm the Community Development Director. Um, if you know me, you know I really don't like giving these opening speeches. It makes me very nervous, so apologies. The assembly can grill me up there all they like, and I'm solid, but this part just makes me nervous, so Anyway, I'm super excited to be here though, and frankly, just a very refreshing committee, a lot of new faces that I don't know well or at all. So welcome.

0:35
Speaker C

And with that, I will hand it over to Mayor Weldon. [FOREIGN LANGUAGE] Welcome everybody, and thank you for all your participation. It's going to be a little bit of a long haul. But you guys have a very important job to do, and I don't know all your faces, so that's pretty exciting. So it'll be fun to see how you all work.

1:04
Speaker C

Remember, you always won't be in agreement. So don't get mad, don't get upset if you get voted off of things, but you should collaborate as best you can. But every once in a while you will lose on these topics, but you have a great segment of the populations. So remember, everybody gets to have a voice. And if there's a problem with that, talk to Jill.

1:29
Speaker C

She'll make sure you have a voice. But anyway, thank you for all your time and effort you're going to put into this and be creative and think great thoughts. Thank you, Mayor. And Katie Kestler, our City Manager. Good afternoon.

1:46
Katie Kestler

I just wanted to say hi and introduce myself for those of you who don't know me. And just again, thank you. Echo the Mayor's words about the important work that you're doing. I know it's a lot of time. You represent really important constituencies.

2:00
Katie Kestler

You have many different hats and you are here to really have that voice. So please, you know, use, use your voice because that's why you've been, been selected. And thank you for volunteering. And I want to talk a little bit about the comprehensive plan and how I see it, because the comprehensive plan really should be the roadmap for the next 20 years of what we want our community to look like as a community. And What that means for me as your city manager is that it is a document that is like dog-eared on my desk and that I look at every single day and I make every single decision and everything that I advise the assembly on is through that lens.

2:40
Katie Kestler

And I know it probably hasn't, you know, the current comp plan maybe doesn't have that same reputation, but that is like my intention on how I want to use the comp plan as a city manager. And I know that, you know, Jill is also working with this team to make a comprehensive plan that is like worth being that document that truly is the guiding document for our community. So that's my commitment to honor all of your hard work and really use this document that you're about to produce. Thanks, Katie.

3:14
Jill Lahorn

And if I could do one little bit of housekeeping while we're at it. These mics, although they do seem to be picking up more in here a bit, They don't always project your voice, and they're really for the people that are on Zoom. So you do need to be pretty close, but you might kind of have to just be careful of where that spot is that you need. Thank you.

3:34
Sachi Arakawa

All right, thanks, Jill. This is my first time using these mics, so we'll see how it goes. All right, so hi everyone, I'm Sachi Arakawa. I'll introduce myself a little more in just a minute. I'm one of the consultants working with the city on our comprehensive plan, which we're calling Our Juneau, Our Future.

3:55
Sachi Arakawa

And this is, this is our first meeting.

3:59
Sachi Arakawa

We're really happy to have you all here. There's actually some familiar faces. I saw some of you at our events this week. So thank you for coming out and participating, being part of the community and supporting the work in that way. So let's talk about the agenda for today.

4:16
Sachi Arakawa

Let's go to the next slide. Next slide. So we, we're here for 2 hours. There's snacks in the back and there's chai, so get comfortable. The bathroom's just out the door.

4:27
Sachi Arakawa

I know we're going to be here for a little while, but we have a lot to cover and it should be a fun day. We have an event or activity towards the end of the evening where we can start talking to each other and brainstorming together. So our first item of business is to get to know each other. Um, so we'll introduce ourselves and we'll introduce— and we'll give you all an opportunity to introduce yourselves. We'll do a little icebreaker, um, then we'll give you some context about what a comprehensive plan is, why we're here, um, why it matters, um, how it's going to happen, um, and what the process will look like.

5:05
Sachi Arakawa

Um, then we'll talk about your role, um, so what your role and responsibilities and the expectations for your group are. And we'll have a break and some opportunities for questions throughout this as well. And then finally, we will have an activity and discussion, and we'll start talking— we'll start— we're starting the scenario planning process today, and I'll talk about scenario planning more in our presentation later. But that we're going to have an activity that's kind of going to break the ground for scenario planning work. So that's our agenda.

5:41
Sachi Arakawa

And so with that, let's go to introductions. If we can go forward in our slides. Thank you. All right. So I think we could start maybe with some introductions from the project team, and I'll turn it over to CBJ staff to start, and then we can explain who we are, the consultants, because some of you may not know us yet.

6:03
Sachi Arakawa

So, Forest, Jill, Scott, Scott, take it away. Who are you and what do you do?

6:12
Sachi Arakawa

Okay, we're started. You don't have to do the icebreaker. We're just— staff are just doing who you are and what—. Are you sure? Yeah.

6:20
Scott Chambore

All right, I'm ready to go. I got put on the spot. I was ready. All right, go ahead. So I know how this meeting is going to go already.

6:27
Scott Chambore

Follow the rule, 30 seconds. My name is Scott Chambore. I'm the planning manager, uh, for the Community Development Community Development, CDD. My favorite memory is actually from when we first moved here. I had the summer off.

6:40
Jill Lahorn

I had a 3-month-old baby, and I could walk up and down Roberts every day in a little baby carrier, have a beer at the top, and then walk back down. That was my favorite experience in Juneau so far. Jill Lahorn, Community Development Director. I think one of the things that came to mind quickly anyway was I think I was only here about a year. I came from Massachusetts and I was waiting for a taxi at about, you know, 3:00 AM 'cause I live near Boston, so I thought you need to be at the airport real early.

7:11
Jill Lahorn

I learned fast you do not. And meanwhile, a big black bear was walking up the sidewalk and I just thought like, "Oh, I'm really not in Massachusetts anymore." So, and my taxi didn't show up.

7:32
Forrest Courtney

Hi, everyone. I'm Forrest Courtney. I'm a senior planner on our long-range team and floodplain manager for the city. Um, my favorite Juneau story was moving here, and about 2 days later, my partner and I climbed Mount Juneau for the first time, and it was just a beautiful blue sky day, not a cloud anywhere, and just made me feel very happy in my decision to come on up here. Hi everybody, uh, Chris Myrtle.

8:08
Chris Myrtle

I'm with Corpus Design here in Juneau. I'm a landscape architect, um, been here since the '90s. My favorite memory of Juneau probably was in '98, when I was gonna propose to my wife. We were up at Eagle Crest and I had waited a whole month for the weather to finally break. Finally the weather broke on New Year's Day.

8:31
Chris Myrtle

Helicopter came, picked us up at Eagle Crest, took us to McGinnis Champagne Ring and stayed up there, and then the helicopter froze up.

8:40
Chris Myrtle

They got it going eventually. So anyway, that's my most memorable moment, or one of my favorite moments, and really excited to work with a lot of you. A lot of familiar faces, but a few new ones I'm excited to work with.

8:56
Irene Kim

Okay. Hi, everyone. My name is Irene Kim. I'm a consultant with Cascadia Partners. I'm a partner at the firm, and I specialize in community engagement.

9:07
Irene Kim

So I'm helping our mighty team with our engagement process for this project. So nice to meet all of you. All of you, and nice to see some familiar faces from this week as well. Um, I've—. My first time in Juneau was Monday, uh, this week.

9:21
Irene Kim

Um, you all have been very welcoming, so thank you for that. And I would say, uh, my memorable— we've had some very long days here this week. It's just been work, work, work. Um, so we ended— I think it was like Tuesday or Wednesday, we had a late night, uh, ended late, and we went to Pell's and got some Russian dumplings, and it was the best thing that I've ever had. So that's a great, um, memory.

9:44
Sachi Arakawa

Yeah, I think mine's live. Um, all right, hi everyone again. My name is Sachi Arakawa, um, and I'm, uh, one of this consultant team along with Chris and Irene, um, working on this project. And just to give a little sort of background on how we're helping the city, so, um, we consultants— well, Chris is kind of our, our boots on the ground here. Chris has been here what, almost 30 years, um, and so has just deep knowledge of the community and connections and is a local.

10:15
Sachi Arakawa

Irene and I just stepped off the plane Monday for the first time here and so are new, um, to this community, but we work in a lot of communities doing long-range planning, um, and so we've had a lot of experiences, um, we bring a lot of, um, sort of best practices and also not so best practices from other communities to kind of give some ideas to Juneau and CBJ for your plan, knowing that you all are also unique and that this will be a process that is tailored to this community. So that's kind of where we're here to bring the long-range planning experience, and we also specialize in scenario planning, which you all will learn a lot about over this process, and we'll talk about in a little bit, but I'll leave it at that for now. Yeah, I think, I mean, those dumplings were good. That was good. And, you know, we were really pretty delirious.

11:11
Sachi Arakawa

That was a late night. We had already told Chris, no, Chris, we're not getting beers with you. It's too late, and we've been working all day. We're just gonna go get dumplings and go home. And then we ended up at a bookstore talking to the owner for like another hour, and we're I don't know, it's the people in Juneau have been really excited to talk about this plan.

11:30
Sachi Arakawa

So that's been a great memory, just meeting folks and chatting with them and getting to drink Mimi's chai and yeah, getting to know the community. So let me pass, I guess we'll maybe we'll just go around this way. So your name, your affiliation, that can just be like I'm a community member, I live in this I represent this organization. I'm a parent to a kid, whatever you want to say about yourself. And then a quick 30-second favorite memory or experience in Juneau.

12:06
Megan Tabachek

So, want to start, Megan? My name is Megan Tabachek. I am the executive director of Trail Mix, and I also love biking, live in the Twin Lakes area. And my favorite Juno memory, man, so hard to choose. Probably when I first got here, we took the ferry up from Prince Rupert, which was 26 hours, got here at 4:00 AM, immediately drove off and drove to the glacier, and it was quiet and silent and serene, which at the time I didn't know that it was not normally like that.

12:42
Megan Tabachek

So I look back very fondly at how peaceful that was. And it was my first time seeing a glacier that close and that big.

12:53
Sachi Arakawa

Hi there. My name is Kelly Sorenson, and I work for a nonprofit called Discovery Southeast here in Juneau. I live in North Douglas, and I have two kids that go to S'aaigaa S'noo School. I'm going to insult somebody if I pick one thing, but I got to go with my husband and I got married on an island. Gull Island north of Amalga here, and that was a pretty special day.

13:22
Speaker N

Oh, there we go. Hi, my name is Travis Eckhoff. I'm a geotechnical engineer. I specialize in landslide response analysis and mitigation. My favorite Juneau experience is definitely split between tons of skiing and tons of being out on trails.

13:38
Speaker N

I don't have a specific, but definitely enjoy the recreational opportunities here.

13:48
Amara Enciso

Hi everybody, my name is Amara Enciso. I'm a private chef here in Juneau and a service member in the hospitality industry here downtown. My husband and I live in the Flats and we have 7 chickens and a nice, nice dog. My favorite Juneau memory would definitely be the first time I ever caught a salmon. I was fresh 2 months in from San Diego, city girl, And I put waders on, I was in the water, and I was getting ready to walk out, and I slipped on a rock, my waders started filling with water, and then I caught the salmon on the line.

14:20
Amara Enciso

So trying to deal with all that at the same time was really memorable for me.

14:29
Speaker O

Hi, my name is Lorraine Diaz. I work for Tlingit and Haida Regional Housing Authority. I am the construction director there.

14:40
Speaker O

I have 6 kids, and I think one of my favorite things about Juneau is how wonderful it is to raise children here. Just between, um, nothing is a long commute, that you can get them, get to them quickly, and I think that's my favorite thing.

15:07
Judith

Hi everyone, my name is Judith. I am a data scientist for The Nature Conservancy. I work for their global office, so I have nothing to do with the local team here. I know them, but we— I work on projects all over the world. I'm originally from the Netherlands.

15:24
Judith

My husband's born and raised here. One of the— he's one of the co-founders of Devil's Club. We live in the Dredge Lake area. We love the outdoors.

15:36
Judith

And we have a little 1-year-old, so I'm very curious to pick your brain about how to bring up kids here. And my favorite memory, also very outdoorsy related, back in the Netherlands, I was definitely the most outdoorsy person in my friend group, family, and everyone I knew. Then I came here about 9 years ago. We went fishing in Sweetheart Creek, and there were bears, there was fish flying everywhere, there were— we were rolling drums fish down the river. It was just very intense.

16:06
Judith

And then we were with a couple of local girls that were just so skilled in skinning these fish right there on the boat. And I was like, I realized I have a lot to learn to live in Juneau. But very, very inspiring people here. Thank you. Hi, I'm Tyson Fick.

16:25
Speaker N

I have I have twin 16-year-old boys. I commercial fish, live in the People's Republic of North Douglas. And you'll often find us either at the baseball fields, field house, the Eagle Crest, out in the wetlands chasing ducks and salmon around, or in any of the other great trails or cabins and stuff that we have around here. I guess my favorite First thing that came to mind was when I first bought the house, going out, just putting my waders on the front deck and walking out and catching cohos on a fly rod. And then several years later, teaching my kids to be able to do the same thing as like little 5, 6-year-olds.

17:13
Lori Soa

So there's a lot to say. All right. Hi, my name is Lori Soa. I'm currently the Chief Research and Strategy Officer at Alaska Electric Light and Power. I've been there for 2.5 years.

17:29
Lori Soa

Before that, I was at the city for 7 years and the university for 7 years before that, so I've had a little bit of, you know, dabbling in lots of different careers. I have 2 kids in high school, one getting ready to graduate, also live in North Douglas, also enjoy all of the recreational facilities, spend a lot of time at the rink. Mr. Myrtle over there. And my favorite memory of Juneau, similar to others, is something that happened shortly after I moved here, and it was more related to the community of Juneau. So my husband and I moved up here almost 25 years ago from Colorado.

18:13
Lori Soa

I grew up on the East Coast and he grew up in Anchorage and always wanted to come back to Alaska. He got a job with Fish and Game, and so we packed up the truck in March and tried to drive up. As you can imagine, that didn't really work very well. Wrecked the truck, had to leave it, and ended up flying up with 2 cats in suitcases and 1 sleeping bag and not very much stuff that we moved into our first apartment. He started his job and a couple of days later we got a knock on the door Sunday morning and it was his boss who came over and loaded up their truck with a blow-up mattress and a fold-up table and dishes and towels and like a daffodil in a little cup.

19:02
Lori Soa

You know, I mean, it was just really, really sweet and not something that we asked for or expected, but I think Juneau has really been like that and it's one of the strengths of our community. Nimi. So.

19:18
Nimi

Hi, my name is Nimi. Can you guys hear me? I can hear myself. Oh my God, it sounds so weird. I own the Spice restaurant in town.

19:28
Nimi

My background is computer science and electrical engineering. I've done many projects in Juneau, been here for 15 years now.

19:38
Nimi

I worked with Myrtle, Miss Myrtle, and you, with a lot of people in town here, a lot of projects, and it's so amazing to be— an honor to be here. Thank you. What else can I say? We make amazing chai. We have rotsums here.

19:54
Nimi

And my favorite thing in Juneau is the same thing. You know, when I first moved here from Columbus, Ohio, you don't know your neighbors in Columbus. Here everybody's so giving and caring and loving and It's very amazing. And I used to think, like, why do you want to know if I have enough grocery or towels? Or, you know, like, now I do that.

20:15
Nimi

So that's the amazing thing about our community. And I'm happy to be here. Thank you.

20:26
Speaker O

My name is Deb Johnston. I have been here 6 years. I don't even know how many years ago my children started moving here and they all left me behind and nobody— I was in Anchorage for most of my adult life. So I moved here and have not regretted it for one minute. I would say I have bookend memorable moments.

20:59
Speaker O

The first time I came to visit my daughter when she first moved here was in February. It was heavy wet snow and I dressed for an Anchorage winter, so leather boots and your normal down jacket. I was soaking wet the whole time, but I loved every minute that I was here. And the next time I came back to move here, it was one of those glorious 80 days with, uh, sun, so how could I not stay? Um, hi, I'm Bailey Gent.

21:43
Bailey Gent

I'm the executive director for Family Promise of Juneau, um, and I live in the valley. I've lived here about 2 years. Um, I I think for me, my favorite memory is, is very similar to what Laurie was saying. When I first moved here, I moved from Colorado and was so amazed when I got here that board members were dropping things off to make sure we had groceries and were settled in. And I got in and settled into my office and had this nonstop stream of volunteers and people coming to say hello and bring things.

22:26
Bailey Gent

And I think obviously in the social services space where I work, it's the generosity of this community is so different from anywhere I've ever lived. And it's really something that's so special. Like, I see more generosity in this community than in Denver, which is a big city, and it was hard to sometimes get people engaged. And, yeah, it's amazing to get people engaged and people care so much about one another here, which is amazing. [FOREIGN LANGUAGE] Hi everyone.

23:00
Katie Thomas Canfield

My name is Katie Thomas Canfield. I'm a resident out the road and a community member. I'm active in several of the refugee sponsor circles. I'm also an average bridge player at the various different senior centers around town. And I think One of my favorite memories of Juneau, I mean, I think there's lots of ones related to nature and particularly during the COVID period where things were just so quiet and magical, and that was around the time I moved up.

23:27
Katie Thomas Canfield

But I think my favorite really was the first time I received healthcare at SEARCH and really being able to see the different way that Juneau was approaching healthcare and to try to ground that in Indigenous practices and services. I do emergency first response abroad globally, and I worked a lot in different healthcare systems all over the world, but I've really never seen anything quite like that before, and I found that to be pretty indicative of the kind of community that Juno is and is trying to build towards, and something that I really wanted to be a part of.

24:01
Leah Domke

Hi, my name is Leah Domke. Apologies for being late. I am a research fish biologist at NOAA Fisheries. But I am here as a private citizen, I guess I should clarify, and I live in the Oak Bay area and that's also where I grew up.

24:21
Leah Domke

And so when I think about my favorite memories, often I go back to my childhood because Juneau is such a great place to raise children. And I think of multiple stories, but one where it was one of, I think it's one of the only times we had back-to-back snow days, and it was like the greatest moment of my life as a child. And we had a huge pile of snow in the cul-de-sac, and so all of us were out in the cul-de-sac, all of the kids in the neighborhood, building snow tunnels through the cul-de-sac and like out all day long into the dark hours, um, which of course was like 3 PM. Um, but it was just like a really lovely moment that kind of shows the community of Juneau like coming together with like all of the kids and then just also the amazing opportunities we have to spend time outdoors. Yeah.

25:16
Mike Heumann

I'm Mike Heumann.

25:19
Mike Heumann

I say I come from Juneau, moved away, worked a little bit in engineering in the oil and gas sector, and then moved back here. And I develop real estate now. I also help— I like to help people get businesses off the ground, a little advice, a little capital. And so I'm just, yeah, here to represent the development industry, I guess. I don't know, I haven't been appointed, but I'll offer that perspective.

25:45
Mike Heumann

And then as far as my favorite experiences, you know, I think there's so many, and I love what everyone said, but, you know, one, it was around solstice time, we went up, you know, John Muir Cabin, and, you know, really good friends up there just, you know, talking, you know, outlandish stuff all night, went to sleep and woke up in the morning and it snowed. And we went and looked out on that meadow and it's just perfect untouched snow. And it's like to have this opportunity for everyone. I mean, that's the thing about Juneau. Everything's basically free other than living here.

26:17
Mike Heumann

You know, all these natural amenities. And so it's an amazing place because it's so democratic in that way. And that's what I love. That's why I came back here. Yeah.

26:28
Sachi Arakawa

Well, thank you all of our in-person members. Yes, we're— yeah, um, so I want to acknowledge that we have folks online as well. We have a couple staff and I think 5 other AC members, so we can go over those folks now. Maybe we can take the presentation off so we can see people. Lydia, do you want to kick us off and then pass it around?

26:53
Lydia Ness

Yeah, absolutely. Hi everyone, my name's Lydia Ness. I'm a senior associate with Cascadia Partners, the consulting firm that's working with CBJ on this project, and I'll be helping facilitate the, the online or kind of the virtual component of the activity. So look forward to working with some of you on that. I would say my saddest memory of Juneau is that I didn't get to go this week with Irene and Saachi.

27:18
Lydia Ness

I got COVID, so I hope to one day soon get to Juneau. But yeah, I will pass it to CBJ staff. It looks like Joseph is on the call, so I'll pass it to you. Hi everyone, great to meet you. My name is Joseph Myers.

27:33
Joseph Meyers

I'm a senior planner with the city and borough of Juneau, and I'd say my favorite memory— I moved here from down south in Portland, and so my first week here I went and saw the glacier, and that was absolutely mind-blowing. So I don't— I think that's my favorite so far. Thanks.

27:56
Lydia Ness

And then Minta, uh, introduce yourself.

28:07
Minta Montalbo

Hi, can you hear me? Yes, I'm having some technical difficulties. Hi, I'm, I'm Minta Montalvo. I'm also a planner with community development here at CBJ, and I am the project manager for this fantastic journey that we're all taking together. And I say my least favorite memory is waking up sick on the day of our first AC meeting.

28:30
Minta Montalbo

So I am so sorry I can't be there with everyone. Many, many, many favorite memories. Most of them you've all covered, but they're all some combination of getting together with friends and loved ones in some outdoor location, like a beach fire or climbing some great trail and having a glass of wine, a can of wine at the top. Or I did once get to go scuba diving for crab back in the day when that fishery was open. That was a fantastic memory.

29:04
Minta Montalbo

But many, many, many things to treasure about, about Juneau. So thank you all very much for being here and look forward to meeting you in person next time. And I will pass this back to you, Lydia. Thank you. Yeah, thanks, Minta.

29:19
Frank Delaney

I hope you feel better. I'm going to pass it to Frank because you're right next to me on my screen. Hi everyone, I'm Frank Delaney. I'm the managing director over at Perseverance Theatre. I started traveling to Juneau back in 2015 when I was primarily an actor with Perseverance and have since escalated things.

29:41
Frank Delaney

And I live out on North Douglas and I don't know, I've got a lot of really great memories, but I think one of my favorites is probably the first time my partner came to visit me in Juneau, and they got off the plane and we went immediately and hiked out to see the glacier. And just the awe in her eyes and the love of the beauty of Juneau was amazing in that moment, and I love it. Still to this day.

30:17
Jill Melcher

All right, um, Jill, how about you go next? I'm Jill Melcher. I'm representing the Alaska Department of Transportation and Public Facilities. Um, been with the department almost 25 years in a planner role. Um, so thank you for asking me to be part of it.

30:37
Jill Melcher

Memory, my best memory in Juneau. I have so many, honestly, love Juneau. But having my daughter Finley 19 years ago here at Bartlett Hospital and, and then just raising her to do all the things that most people talked about here today, fly fishing for the silvers and hiking, lots of hiking, going out to the glacier, ice skating when it freezes over. So. That's it.

31:08
Sachi Arakawa

Thank you.

31:11
Lydia Ness

Thanks, Jill. All right, Griffin, I'll call on you next. Yeah. Hi, all. My name is Griffin Plush.

31:20
Griffin Plush

I am currently here in Anchorage, and sorry I can't join you there. I work with the Alaska Municipal League. I've been for the last few years working on energy planning. But a variety of services for the local governments around the state through that role. But I previously worked in the legislature and originally from Seward where I worked at the national park there.

31:45
Griffin Plush

I first moved to Juneau when I graduated high school a little over 10 years ago, moved to go to UAS, went to UAS, graduated, went back to South Central for a while, eventually got a I find a job to allow me to come back to Juneau because I do really love it. It reminds me a lot of home in a sense, but bigger, like a bigger Seward. And actually I've had a lot of friends that I had back in Seward who have made their way as they've, you know, kind of looked to advance their careers and, you know, live in a bigger community with more to do. A number of other folks from Seward have moved to Juneau, and in my memory I was thinking about has a lot to do with them. Hiking out with some of my other friends from Seward and some other folks who lived in Juneau longer as well, down to Eagle Glacier Cabin in the winter for my birthday, and we hauled out various small instruments and board games and, you know, the whole big cabin camping experience, and I very much appreciate that access to nature and how everybody cares and is excited about being in the environment around them.

33:02
Lydia Ness

So, yeah, that's me. Thanks, Griffin. And then, is it Tari? Did I pronounce that correctly?

33:12
Speaker E

Tari.

33:18
Tari Stage-Harvey

Hi. Oh, looks like you might be breaking up. Um, there you go. Yeah, we can hear you. Okay, sorry, I am on— and my internet seemed stable till right this moment.

33:42
Tari Stage-Harvey

Is it still breaking up? Uh, you're better now. Oh, okay. Um, I'm a pastor at Shepherd of the Valley Lutheran Church in the valley, raised 3 kids there, um, and I'm married to a Juneau police officer. And favorite memory was New Year's Eve this last year when at midnight the Northern Lights were amazing, and right at midnight, and everyone in the whole neighborhood was out, and it was just wonderful.

34:14
Lydia Ness

So thanks for letting me be a part. Thank you, Craig.

34:21
Craig Dahl

Yeah, well, I probably am the senior person in this group. I moved to Juneau in 1963 when my parents came here, started off in Juneau Douglas High School, and eventually raised a family here. And I spent 42 years as a local banker. And retired from that about 10 years ago and came to work for the Juneau Chamber, which is what I'm doing now as the executive director. And like somebody said, you know, this is such an amazing place to live.

34:52
Craig Dahl

It's hard to figure one, one thing. I mean, I could talk about taking my kids to learn to ski at Eagle Crest, the time we spend on our boats out watching whales and fishing and hunting and hiking. This is just such an amazing community, and I've been here my whole life. Whole life. Well, no, that's not quite right.

35:10
Craig Dahl

My wife has been here her whole life. She reminds me that I'm not from Juneau, um, but I've been here the 62 years. I want to see Juneau continue on with this kind of spirit and community commitment, and this is really an important process, so I wanted to be involved. Thanks so much, Craig. Logan.

35:30
Logan Miller

Hello, my name is Logan Miller. I grew up in Juneau on North Douglas and recently moved back and live in Auke Bay area with my partner now. I'm a lawyer and I work with the nonprofit Alaska Legal Services, and I work at AWARE, the domestic violence shelter, where I provide services for survivors of domestic violence. And then I also work part-time at the Zach Gordon Youth Center. And one of my favorite Juneau memories, uh, my partner is not from Juneau, and a couple years ago she came to visit when I was living here.

36:14
Logan Miller

Um, she came in the summer for a week, and seeing her, getting to show her all my favorite places and, um, seeing her fall in love with Juneau was just really meaningful. So happy to be here. Thanks, Logan. All right, Sachi, I'll turn it back to you. Thank you, Lydia, and thanks everyone for sharing those memories.

36:38
Sachi Arakawa

I feel like, you know, I feel like I'm living vicariously through you and experiencing all these amazing memories. And I feel like I would be remiss if I didn't say that my— probably my favorite memory is actually the tour that CVJ staff took us on an all-day tour this Monday with Minta and Joseph and Forrest, and I think they showed me all of their favorite places. We went all the way down to Thane and all the way up to— is it Tea Bay? Tea Harbor, Auck Bay, past Auck Bay, and everywhere in between. And so it's just been fantastic to get to know this place and this community, and I hear all the love you all have for it.

37:19
Sachi Arakawa

So thanks for sharing that. All right, so I think we can move on now. Let's, let's talk about why we're here today, which is to kick off our comprehensive plan. So I'm going to give you a little bit of background on what a comprehensive plan is for those who aren't familiar. I think we have a pretty savvy group, so we can run through this fairly quickly.

37:43
Sachi Arakawa

So let's go to our first slide here. So a comprehensive plan is a roadmap. Roadmap for— it's a long-range roadmap for approximately the next 20 years or so of growth in Juneau. And go to our next slide. So what makes a comprehensive plan comprehensive?

38:05
Sachi Arakawa

Well, again, it's long-term, so it looks into the future. Generally, long-range plans 20 to 30 years into the future and sets policy and investment agendas for the decades to come. Um, and it's comprehensive. The, the name comprehensive means that it addresses a broad range of interests. Um, so everything from transportation to economic development, parks, recreation, natural areas, historic resources, and importantly, land use.

38:37
Sachi Arakawa

Um, land use is a major component of the comprehensive plan. Um, and comp plans are also community driven. Well, they're not always community driven, but the goal and intention of staff and, uh, the, and of staff and our project team is to make this a very community-driven effort. Um, and it can document the values and intentions of the community for the future. And like Katie said, it's going to be something that she will have on her desk and be referencing to, um, kind of, and the community vision can help guide the work that she and others in city government do.

39:16
Sachi Arakawa

So Juneau's Comp Plan, um, the last Comp Plan was adopted over 10 years ago, 2013, um, and a lot has happened in the last 10 years, um, and so it's important to update it to respond to changing community priorities and, um, conditions. A few of the things just, you know, to kind of think about how much has changed in the last 10 years Well, we had a pandemic, which, you know, was fairly unexpected. We had an increase in the frequency and intensity of events like the Glacial Outburst Flood. We saw shifts in the economy, in part because of, you know, what happened during the pandemic. We saw a lot more shifting to remote work.

40:07
Sachi Arakawa

Decline of brick-and-mortar retail. RIP Joann's Fabrics.

40:14
Sachi Arakawa

And, you know, with changes in state and federal policies, especially just recently, we're seeing that declining school enrollment and increasingly aging population. And of course tourism has continued to grow.

40:31
Sachi Arakawa

So it's important to update the comp plan to respond to all these new trends. Emerging issues, and also to think about other trends that might be on the horizon that we maybe can't predict. You know, 10, 15 years— well, 15 years ago, we didn't see COVID coming, and that was a big change that we weren't necessarily prepared or, or had not planned for. Um, so comprehensive plans give guidance for a wide range of topics, as I said. Anything from transportation to housing to recreation, economic development.

41:07
Sachi Arakawa

But like, how do comp plans actually result in on-the-ground change? Like, how are they relevant to you all? I'm just gonna use one topic that comp plans cover as an example of how a comprehensive plan kind of works and trickles down to community impact. So the example topic is land use and development because this is a big one. This, this is something that is very central to a comprehensive plan.

41:32
Sachi Arakawa

Um, and so for land use and development, the way that a comprehensive plan kind of guides it is through a future land use map. Um, and so that kind of shows— it's kind of a blueprint for the way the community wants to grow, and it's actually map-based. Um, it includes land use goals and policies and actions to support the community vision. That we're going to create together during this process. Um, so then that's, that's sort of high-level guidance, right?

41:59
Sachi Arakawa

Like, it's a little hand-wavy, but it gives people like Katie and Minton, Jill and Forest direction, um, and, and the assembly direction on what the community wants to see. Um, and then the city actually implements that, um, through the zoning map and code, um, that's updated to match the future land use vision. So, I don't know if— I mean, we have some developers here. We have, you know, people who are all— we're all impacted by zoning. It impacts how we can develop and how we use our land, how the built environment happens.

42:36
Sachi Arakawa

And so the city basically, you know, uses our comprehensive plan guidance to update zoning code and guide zoning code. And that has big impact to the community. I just want to note here, there are a lot of things that comprehensive plans can't do. It's not a silver bullet and it's not going to address every issue in the community. There's some projects that are somewhat out of the hands of CBJ.

43:06
Sachi Arakawa

There's things that are funded and run by the state, the federal government, something like a second crossing. The comprehensive plan might be able to provide guidance about and language around what the community wants for that, but it can't necessarily initiate that project or pay for it. So, just want to, like, set the expectation that we're not fixing everything and we can't address every issue, but we will talk about a broad range of issues and think about what guidance we want to provide. Um, anything else on that? I'm trying to— That's— that covers that.

43:42
Sachi Arakawa

Um, you can go to the next slide. Um, a good comprehensive plan has a lot of different elements. We're going to do existing conditions. We're going to look at emerging trends. We're going to do good public engagement.

43:57
Sachi Arakawa

Um, we're going to think about economic realities. We're going to think about what's feasible, what can actually be implemented. We're going to try to, you know, have this grounded in reality while also being guided by a vision that, you know, that might be aspirational. And one thing that's really important is this last bullet. Our most recent— the last comprehensive plan in 2013 did not necessarily meet this goal, but a good comprehensive plan is short, uncomplicated, and visually engaging.

44:30
Sachi Arakawa

Engaging so it can be used and understood both by the public and by staff.

44:37
Sachi Arakawa

Sorry to anyone who worked on the previous comp plan, but appreciate the effort. And, and I will say, having worked on many long-range plans, it is hard to make them short and sweet. It's a lot harder than you think. We're going to do our best. Um, all right, so I'm going to send out a slide deck that has a little more detail on each stage of the project, but if we can go to the next slide.

44:59
Sachi Arakawa

Um, so this is our project timeline. It is a 3-year project. Um, so, um, we're going to be together for a while. Um, we're starting in the winter of 2025. Um, we're basically in kind of the, the second— we're here.

45:18
Sachi Arakawa

Um, and there are— you'll see from this timeline there's multiple, um, opportunities for broad community engagement from the general public. We have 3 opportunities, one of which was this week with our 4 listening sessions. Another will happen likely in the fall where we come and do a community workshop where we play a map-based game with the community that will inform our scenario planning work. Then we come back again probably spring 2026. We do another community workshop workshop where we choose a preferred scenario, and that may not make a lot of sense to you yet, but we'll, we'll all learn about scenario planning and some of these terms will become more familiar.

46:02
Sachi Arakawa

So that's our, our third— I guess we actually have 4 opportunities for broad public engagement. That's our third, and then we have a fourth, um, probably winter of 2027 where we have a public open house, a draft plan reveal. Um, along with that, you'll see the orange kind of circles or donuts there in the middle are our advisory committee meetings. So you all will be meeting with us fairly frequently, um, about once every other month, um, to help guide our work. Um, and then we'll also be meeting with Planning Commission and the Assembly throughout the project.

46:38
Sachi Arakawa

Um, we're also additionally doing a lot of focus groups, interviews, and kind of intercept meetings with folks in the community, because we know there's a lot of interest that may not get captured in these broad community events. There's a lot of people that aren't at this table today that we need to talk to and consider in the process. So that'll happen throughout the listen and learn phase and possibly beyond.

47:06
Sachi Arakawa

All right, so we're getting close. We're going to take a break soon, and it's hot, and maybe folks are wanting to get some chai or some snacks. So we'll take a break in just a few minutes, but we're going to talk about your role and responsibility— roles and responsibilities. So your group is expected to attend and participate in up to 12 bi-monthly, meaning every other month, meetings over the course of the project. Meetings will typically be about an hour and a half.

47:38
Sachi Arakawa

This is— this one's a little bit longer. Some might be as long as as this, 2 hours, but we'll try to keep them as short and sweet as we can. We're expecting you to provide input, your skills, your knowledge on the topics that you are, you know, that you specialize in or you have lived experience in to help kind of enrich our process. And we also expect that you can share what you learned during this process back to your friends, your community, your neighbors, and also share any concerns you're hearing from your community with this group. So you all are kind of liaisons to the communities that you interact with and represent.

48:24
Sachi Arakawa

And then we would love for you to be able to attend our broader community engagement events. A lot of you were at our listening sessions, and we really appreciate that. So if if you're able to join those and to recruit people and bring friends, we would really appreciate that.

48:40
Sachi Arakawa

The commitment window for you is April 2025, so this month, to May 2027, so it's about 25 months. And that's, you know, roughly corresponds to our 3-year timeline. We've had some people say, can you shorten this process? It's a long process, and we know that there have been processes, planning processes recently that have gone longer than expected. Douglas, Blueprint Downtown, and were maybe challenging for the advisory groups because they were long, maybe even longer than planned.

49:19
Sachi Arakawa

And I think staff kind of acknowledged that that was a challenge, but are really committed to keeping this on like the timing of this on time. And Scott, you've, you've been through this before. Do you have any, any thoughts or, or anything to share with the group? Sure, yes. So, um, so thank you.

49:42
Scott Chambore

Scott Chamberlain, the planning manager. A couple things to support really the last two sections for Saachi. One is, what is your role in the comprehensive plan and where does this arise from. So I actually have a little bit of homework for you guys.

50:00
Scott Chambore

As you mentioned, as, uh, Sachin mentioned, um, there may— you might need some more. I don't know how many I made. Um, comprehensive plan at the City of Burroughs Juno comes out of the land use code, uh, so it's in Title 49, uh, and so Basically, you have a one-page summary of exactly what Title 49 says about the comprehensive plan in our community. And so that is how the one that's currently adopted and in the books is— operates. And so obviously anything that is in the land use code has a lot of public process.

50:43
Scott Chambore

So Because it's in the land use code, the assembly has designated the planning commission as kind of the committee that takes a look at all those sort of issues in the community and uses them as a kind of a review structure prior to getting to them. So no matter if there's a change to the current comprehensive plan, like some of our small area plans that we just created— downtown Douglas, West Juneau— or Downtown Blueprint, both of those plans, because they're changing the comprehensive plan, which is essentially changing the land use code, has to stop at both locations. So 2 and a half years of this comprehensive plan may seem like a long time, but at the tail end, once your product is complete, you do have that sort of public process already built in. And so, public comment periods, public noticing, and then public hearing. And then, quite frankly, whatever the assembly decides, they could like your work and go through really quickly, or they could refer it to a committee.

51:54
Scott Chambore

They could say the emergency surrounding the glop takes precedent, we don't have time on our meetings. So, once it gets through the public process, this level, you don't know what the timeframe is going to be at the very back end. But it has to happen. It's in our code and it's part of, you know, the foundation of getting public input on the final work product. Some of the things I do want to highlight in this little one-page summary that I think is really important to know, because there'll be a lot of confusion when you talk to members of the public about what you're what you're trying to create.

52:30
Scott Chambore

And so I've highlighted them on mine. Sorry, it didn't make it through the copier onto yours. But I'll just read them and you'll have more than enough ample opportunity to talk to staff or, or, or Sachi and her team about these things in future meetings. But the key elements to notice from this one-page summary of the Comprehensive Plan in the Title 49 Code is that the Comprehensive Plan, as reiterated earlier, is guiding and directing public and private land use in the city and borough of Juneau. So it's a guide.

53:00
Scott Chambore

One technical piece to know is that once the comprehensive plan is in place, if there is a conflict between a decision, if the assembly after the comprehensive plan was adopted adopts another ordinance that is contrary to what is in the comprehensive plan, the ordinance basically takes precedence. Whatever is the latest decision by the assembly, which is the decision-making body. So we'll, you'll see scenarios of that in the future. And then finally, this is a key piece, 'cause you'll hear this in talking with the public as well. The goals and the policies in the comp plan are aspirational in nature.

53:43
Scott Chambore

So you're trying to give guidance on how the assembly puts together their decisions. So it's not binding. There have been cases in public plans that have gotten to the assembly level in the past where the whole dialogue was like, I'm not passing this plan because I know whatever is in its contents is automatically put into place. And that's not true. So if you put in a strategy in the comprehensive plan, the plan will be adopted, but it doesn't mean those policies are adopted immediately.

54:16
Scott Chambore

It would take an additional ordinance to adopt your strategy. So just being clear that what the role of the comp plan, what the role of this committee is going forward. So you can think of yourselves as, you know, coming out of the Title 49 Land Use Code, you are, you know, referring your initial recommendations to the Planning Commission. Who will then, with their wisdom and expertise, take a look at your work and either provide feedback back to you for clarification, or they will take the recommendations and pass it on to the Assembly with perhaps their own guidance. So you are the first step and get the first crack at framing the conversation, and so it's a really important and fantastic role.

55:03
Scott Chambore

I already explained a little bit about the reasoning behind the timeline, why it's taking so long. This planning process is completely different than Downtown Blueprint and Downtown Douglas West Juno Plan. This plan is well-resourced. We have guidance and a team geared to get this complete in 2.5 years. And you already have seen that the resources of our long-range outreach team are fantastic and have already laid the groundwork for this plan to go faster.

55:36
Scott Chambore

With wrapping up the last 2 plans that we have. So the connections are made, the processes are understood, and we're really excited to go forward as quick as you allow us to do or are ready to do. [FOREIGN LANGUAGE] Quick point, I swear, and then I really am here to listen. I do want to say though, because I know I keep hearing, oh, 3 years, it's so long. I know I'm a planner, so I'm just going to own that up front, right?

56:05
Jill Lahorn

But, you know, I did my own personal planning recently, and quite frankly, even working with the attorneys— no offense to any attorneys on the committee— but it took almost a year, and that was just to do my own personal planning. I didn't have to talk to 30,000 other people about what my plan was going to be for the rest of my life, right? Which, you know, hopefully is more than 20 to 30 years for me, but, you know, So I do think we kind of have to put it into perspective as well. It is a huge commitment from all of you. That is not to be undervalued at all.

56:37
Jill Lahorn

But I don't think that it's too long, 2.5 years or so now, because we are in it. We started. We're in. So we're already under that 3-year threshold. But I don't think in the scheme of things that we're planning a strategy for 20 to 30 years for your— for the next generation.

56:54
Jill Lahorn

So, I don't know, that doesn't seem that long to me, and that's sort of the perspective that I come from. And so maybe hopefully when you're talking to people out there and that you're getting that pushback too, and you're struggling to try to help people get involved or stay kind of interested, maybe just, you know, kind of put in perspective. If you're looking at schools, you're looking at colleges, I know a lot of staff in the same position right now, like that's just not a 6-month decision, right? It's a year, it's 2 years. 2, 3.

57:23
Jill Lahorn

So this is no different. We really need to care for the community. And quite frankly, if we had done a better job years ago, we might not be facing the same critical issues today. So let's take the time now, do it right, work smarter, not faster, and still get it done on time. That's my goal.

57:43
Sachi Arakawa

Thank you. Jill, I'm just really impressed that you do personal planning. I am—. My personal planning is like, you're lucky if I plan my next week, so I'm impressed. Yeah, thank you for all those words.

58:03
Sachi Arakawa

And yeah, we really— I think this project wants to work at the pace of community and, you know, be deliberate and make sure that we're doing it right. But we also hear from the community that they don't want this process to drag on, and we're committed to making that happen. So let's talk about the— what the CBJ will commit to as your partners in all this. We'll commit to giving you all reasonable notice before scheduled meetings, and we'll do our best to accommodate all your schedules so that we can hopefully all get together and not be missing anyone. We'll try to make these meetings easy, accessible, and And whenever possible, which should be every time, but just barring any unforeseen circumstances, we're saying whenever possible, we will have hybrid options as well.

58:53
Sachi Arakawa

So if you need to come in virtually, that's fine. And some of these may be held for fully virtually, but we do want to try to get together in person as much as we can because we see a lot of value in that. And then we will be sending scheduling polls to find a time that works best for the majority of us. And we'll also kind of make an effort to rotate between afternoon times, evening times. I know not everyone, you know, one of those two may not be better for some of us.

59:23
Sachi Arakawa

And so we'll try to have a variety of times and locations too. All right. So I think so that we can have a break, I will do a 5-minute break and I guess I'll pause just for just a couple minutes if there's any questions that we want to raise with the group. Otherwise, we'll all be available during the break to answer any questions you have on the process or your roles. But anything that anyone wants to bring up in front of the group question-wise before we break?

1:00:03
Sachi Arakawa

And how are our virtual folks doing? We hanging in there?

1:00:08
Sachi Arakawa

We're still here. Great. All right. Well, everyone, we will take a 5-minute break. So let's come back at 5:00— 5:11.

1:00:18
Sachi Arakawa

Is my math right? Oh, boy. Your fearless leader here. So let's come back at 5:11. There's food behind us.

1:00:26
Sachi Arakawa

It says reserved for the media, but that's not true. And bathrooms are outside, and we will be here if you have any questions. So see you back here in 5 minutes. Okay, so I'm going to give you a little presentation, but just to orient you to what you have in front of you here, here. Everyone should have a set of 14, I believe, cards.

1:01:03
Sachi Arakawa

All your stacks are the same. And these are your drivers of change, and I'm going to explain what that is in just a minute. And we're going to get into groups and do an activity. Don't worry about— you don't need to do anything with those cards yet, but just so you know, they are there. All right, so let's talk a little bit about Scenario planning.

1:01:31
Sachi Arakawa

All right, so like I said, we work on a lot of long-range plans around the country, and we think that scenario planning is a really fantastic tool for, for these kind of future-reaching plans because it helps us plan for uncertainty. And we just talked about how much, you know, how many things there were that we couldn't have predicted that happened just over the last 10 years, and we wanna plan for the next 20 years that's a little more durable, flexible, resilient, basically that can respond to a whole set of potential futures and things that we can't predict. So we like to use a tool called scenario planning or an approach called scenario planning. And it's kind of different from the typical planning approach. So typical planning, long-range planning assumes that past trends will continue.

1:02:21
Sachi Arakawa

Assumes that the way we're going now and the things that are happening now are just what's always going to be happening, and it doesn't really account for emerging trends and uncertainty. Um, so that reduces the useful life of the plan. You know, as soon as something unexpected happens like COVID, we're scrambling, we don't know what to do, our policies maybe aren't effective in this new reality. Um, so, you know, then the plan is kind of useless. And it generally just puts us in, in kind of a disadvantaged position when we are not planning for uncertainty.

1:02:57
Sachi Arakawa

So a scenario planning approach is a little bit different. It considers many potential futures. So it considers what we're going to talk about, which are driving forces or emerging trends and issues that are potentially uncertain but could happen. So it accounts for for a variety of, of these emerging issues and trends.

1:03:21
Sachi Arakawa

Why include scenario planning in a comprehensive plan process? It's a great educational tool, actually, and I haven't even really touched on that aspect, but you'll see when we come and do the scenario planning game, it's a really great way for people, for community members to sit in the position of a planner and actually make decisions and see what the trade-offs of those decisions are. So it helps us kind of understand the impacts of the choices that we make in the policies that we put forward. It minimizes the blind spots that we have and increases the useful life of the plan, like I just mentioned. It focuses the discussions on policies that will help the community to manage risk, and it provides a reference case for what could happen if policies stay stay as they are if we don't change anything.

1:04:13
Sachi Arakawa

Yeah, so we have already kind of talked about some of these emerging issues or trends that have happened recently. Scenario planning can help us to prepare for these and other things that we don't know that are gonna happen in the future. Okay, and I'm gonna prepare you— the next slide is a little wonky. It's very tight, and it's Scenario planning is both simple and somewhat technical, but this is kind of a flowchart, and we'll send this slide deck out so you can look at this more closely. But this is kind of a flowchart that shows all of the 5 stages that we will— that happen in scenario planning.

1:04:50
Sachi Arakawa

So we start with— from the assumptions, what we know today. We think about what we call driving forces, and we're going to talk about those in just a second. But those are just big things, big things that could could change the future that are unknown or uncertain. Then we, using our driving forces, we create potential futures. So we think about, you know, what could happen in the future if some of these driving forces come to be and what would those futures look like?

1:05:18
Sachi Arakawa

Then we create strategies to address those potential futures. And then we create scenarios that essentially kind of test the policies and strategies that we put forward. Those are map-based, and then we get to a preferred scenario and eventually our future land use map and our set of goals and policies. And there's opportunities for public input kind of on both ends of that, of that work— workflow, I guess you would call it. We'll get back into this diagram later.

1:05:54
Sachi Arakawa

You don't need to worry about it too much. But you're welcome to worry about it and you're welcome to ask questions if you have any. And, you know, we can, we can talk more about it in future meetings. Today what we want to talk about though is the driving forces. So we're at the very beginning of this process.

1:06:11
Sachi Arakawa

And what we want to do is start brainstorming external factors that have the potential to influence the future. So we call those sometimes driving forces. And Driving forces are often hard to predict and not certain. So those could be things— if we could go to this next slide— like economic trends, technological advances, regulatory changes, social factors, environmental changes.

1:06:43
Sachi Arakawa

So you all have a set of driving forces cards that are kind of a start, a suggestion. We've developed these based on work we've done all over the country and based on even work that's been done internationally with the Consortium for Scenario Planning. So, they're, they're like a kind of set of driving forces that have been identified in other places, but we know that Juneau is unique. And so, we want you all to kind of vet them, take a look, see if there are some in there that seem relevant to Juneau, and then tell us what else. So we have some cards where you can write in driving forces that relate to Juneau.

1:07:22
Sachi Arakawa

You can also mark these cards up and change them if they don't look quite right. You can write on them, scratch things out, say this doesn't make sense. So we're gonna start our activity. Let's see. Yeah, we—.

1:07:36
Sachi Arakawa

Oh yeah, so for those who are online, we have this activity set up for you as well. So Lydia, maybe you can Let's see. What's the best— well, we're gonna do, we're gonna have you all go into a breakout room and work on the activity together. But Lydia, maybe like while we're talking here and I'm giving the instructions, you can share your screen for the online folks so they can see what it's gonna look like. Happy to do that.

1:08:09
Sachi Arakawa

The instructions out on the table for people. Okay, they're in the— they're in here. Okay. So we're gonna pass out a set of instructions, and I'm gonna have Chris, Forrest, and Irene join folks. We're gonna get into groups of about 5, so maybe let's say the 4 of you, the 1, 2, 3, 4.

1:08:37
Sachi Arakawa

My counting in math is really bad. Are these 4 people? Yes, 1, 2, 3, 4. And is this 5 here? Okay, great.

1:08:44
Sachi Arakawa

Yes, I did it. All right, so we'll do this group of 5, this group of 4, and this group of 4. Um, so Chris, maybe you can be with this group. Um, Forrest, you can be with that group in the middle. And Irene can have this group on the end.

1:08:59
Sachi Arakawa

So we're passing out the instructions, um, and the first thing we're going to do is take about 5 minutes individually to just look at the Driving Forces cards. There's a lot to take in. They have a front and a back. For the folks online, it doesn't have a front and a back. It's just— there's— it's one page that has a top and a bottom.

1:09:21
Sachi Arakawa

So your front is the driving force, and then the back just describes a little bit about what the driving force is.

1:09:33
Chris Myrtle

This is not meant to be fun. I don't know where you got that idea, Chris. One-on-one comp planning, learning how to become a planner, putting you in the planning frame of mind. I don't know where you heard that. This is not a heavy homework exercise.

1:09:47
Sachi Arakawa

Yes, no, yeah, that's right, that's right. This is meant to be fun. If it's not making perfect sense, that's okay. The goal is for us to just kind of brain to brainstorm and explore today. And you will have a facilitator who can help answer questions too.

1:10:03
Sachi Arakawa

So yeah, so we're just gonna take about 5 minutes to look at the cards individually, and then we're gonna get together as a group and we're gonna talk about them and think about how to prioritize them. So which of these seem most relevant to Juneau? So think about that as you're looking at the cards. Which one of these seem most relevant? Are there any that seem not relevant?

1:10:25
Sachi Arakawa

Maybe you can discard those. And maybe some that are— you're not sure about. So you can kind of start doing that prioritization exercise. Feel free to write down notes, whatever you want to do. And looks like Lydia has the online exercise up.

1:10:43
Sachi Arakawa

Yeah, I do. And I didn't know if we were going to go into a group or kind of have our like separate space. Yeah, we're gonna put the online folks into a breakout room. And Lydia, do you have— what's it called— co-host?

1:11:06
Sachi Arakawa

You are— you're— I'm being told you are a co-host now. Okay, great. You should be able to move into breakout room. Okay, so you want me to go ahead and do that? Okay.

1:11:16
Sachi Arakawa

But if not, just let us know. We can still hear you.

1:11:21
Lydia Ness

Um, okay. Yeah. Uh, let's see if I can do this.

1:11:30
Lydia Ness

All right, I'm getting us all in a room, so bear with me for just a minute here.

1:36:23
Sachi Arakawa

2 Minutes.

1:40:26
Sachi Arakawa

Told the virtual people to rejoin us, so if everyone can wrap up. I like that we've got some last-minute action going on here.

1:40:39
Sachi Arakawa

30 Seconds to come.

1:40:44
Sachi Arakawa

And if you can assign one person to do a report back to the group, but you're all welcome to weigh in. We need a team captain for every group.

1:41:31
Sachi Arakawa

So everyone, let's regroup and we're going to do report back.

1:41:52
Sachi Arakawa

All right, Lydia, can you all hear us? Yes. Great. So we're going to start with the group, the virtual group. And have you give us a quick report back.

1:42:02
Lydia Ness

We've only got 5 minutes left, so we'll just try to do maybe a minute or so per group. Yeah, I'm happy to do that. We didn't designate someone, that was my bad. I think we kind of dove right into it to make as much time as possible. So I'm happy to, to do that, and then other folks virtually feel free to chime in if I've missed something.

1:42:25
Lydia Ness

But We really focused on kind of what was a priority, and we had kind of a maybe pile as well. So I think some of the priorities that we heard from the group were, of course, things like tourism and demographic changes, public health, socioeconomic equality, food security, frequency and intensity of extreme weather events, And then some additions that we added were tribal sovereignty, access to child care, and then federal policies. So kind of everything from some broader federal policies and funding that could, could impact Juneau to kind of maybe different types of jobs like the Coast Guard too. And so there's a lot of kind of wrapped up into that. But those were some of the priorities.

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1:43:16
Lydia Ness

And then we have some maybes that I think folks are interested in maybe kind of exploring further. In future discussions, like environmental degradation, migration, international relations. I think there's some kind of, maybe some differences of, is there political and social polarization in Juneau, but it's still something to be kind of thinking about.

1:43:39
Lydia Ness

So yeah, so those are maybe some high-level takeaways. Do other folks on Zoom here want to share anything else I missed? Kind of high level.

1:43:52
Lydia Ness

I think the big takeaway is there wasn't a discard pile. Kind of many of these feel very kind of relevant and pertinent to Juneau.

1:44:02
Sachi Arakawa

Great. Thank you, online folks. So I can just pass it maybe over to Forest Group first, and we had a lively in-person discussion. And so let's hear what you all talked about.

1:44:20
Mike Heumann

Yeah, sure. I wasn't planning on this at all. What did we do?

1:44:29
Mike Heumann

So here, I'll just look at it. I mean, we kind of lumped some things together. We felt—. Man. Some of these things are just so interrelated.

1:44:42
Mike Heumann

And so, you know, I guess we started off with access to housing and, you know, affordable housing specifically.

1:44:53
Mike Heumann

And, you know, that being such a big driver of kind of everything that goes on here. What is going on?

1:45:02
Mike Heumann

Sorry. Okay. Okay. And, you know, I think we— it's just really hard to tease these things apart. They're all really, really interrelated issues.

1:45:12
Mike Heumann

You know, funding for public education, you know, demographic changes, you know, economic growth, you know, these things all tie together. You know, these pro— you know, one of these problems screws up everything else. And then, you know, another thing we touched on was, you know, environmental degradation, you know, these weather events. And you know, we started off talking about those together and then kind of were coached a little bit to separate them. But you know, we're in a changing environment.

1:45:38
Mike Heumann

I mean, we've seen it here, you know, not just with the glacial outburst, but you know, like the flood rainstorm at the end of 2020 there, you know, cut out all those culverts all over the place. So you want to talk about housing, you want to go build something, well, you know, what size should the storm drain system be? What we're designing for is probably not sufficient for what these future storms are going to be like. So there's— but these things add cost to housing, you know, and then obviously we put tourism way up there in that, you know, it has a huge impact. It's also not clear what we're going to do about it, you know, and I don't know, is that enough?

1:46:13
Speaker E

Do you want more? Thanks. Thanks for taking the time. And I can say we didn't feel like we had enough Time.

1:46:24
Amara Enciso

Hi everybody. Um, so like your group, we also clustered a couple of the points together because we also felt that they were very closely intertwined and one would affect the other. Um, so we set it up to where it's like foundation. So we set some of the topics up like their foundations that need to happen before we work on and build for the next topic. So, um, we based ours on socioeconomic equality, and that was the basis of the foundation of all of our topics.

1:47:07
Amara Enciso

And we move forward to public health, access to housing, public education, and We wrote in community and social services, for example, elderly healthcare, you know, care for children, things like that, food security and resiliency. And our secondary topics, we intertwined tourism, economic growth and development, and environmental degradation, migration and demographic, demographic changes, improvements or advances in transportation systems, and then the frequency and extreme weather events. And lastly, we clustered the international relations and political polarizations together.

1:48:06
Lori Soa

Hi, I'm gonna be really quick because it sounds like we all had fairly similar and really good conversations. We had tourism, public education, housing as a huge multifaceted issue, childcare and senior housing with an aging population, frequency and intensity of extreme weather events being something that's going to impact, you know, all aspects, highly uncertain, and And then we also had conversations around our reliance on shipping and bringing food in from outside of Juneau and the impacts that has, you know, on local businesses and restaurants and really everybody. And also related to that, the transportation infrastructure and how we rely on getting equipment and supplies and food and everything else in through, um, you know, our barge system, um, and some of the limitations that we have with our, you know, narrow corridors and, you know, one big long road that goes through that everyone has to come through in South Franklin. Um, definitely invite the consultants to come back during peak tourist season and drive through South Franklin. And imagine that you are like, uh, going, um, a pump truck going to the wastewater treatment plants, or, um, an AML barge trying to get through, or, uh, you know, truck trying to get through to deliver equipment through town.

1:49:37
Lori Soa

Um, uh, definitely driving force for the community.

1:49:43
Sachi Arakawa

All right.

1:49:50
Sachi Arakawa

We are at time. We're actually a couple of minutes over, so thank you for hanging out with us, and thanks for this great conversation. So these driving forces will help us to start thinking about potential futures, and the potential futures will help us to start kind of testing policies against some of these uncertainties that we may or may not hit. And we'll talk more about that at our next meeting. We'll also give you all a report back on all the engagement that we've done over this week, including this meeting.

1:50:19
Sachi Arakawa

So we will be sending out some kind of a scheduling poll to see when everyone is most available, probably in about a month and a half or 2 months. So we will see you then. And this is the project timeline, just to remind you what we're looking forward to. And we'll send these slides out. After the meeting.

1:50:43
Speaker E

So thanks, everybody. Thank you. Thanks to our virtual folks. Thank you. Thank you.

Speakers in this transcript

BG

Bailey Gent

Pending

Executive Director · Family Promise of Juneau

CM

Chris Myrtle

Pending

Landscape Architect · Corpus Design

FD

Frank Delaney

Pending

Managing Director · Perseverance Theatre

JL

Jill Lahorn

Pending

Community Development Director · City and Borough of Juneau

JM

Jill Melcher

Pending

Planner · Alaska Department of Transportation and Public Facilities (DOT&PF)

JM

Joseph Meyers

Pending

Senior Planner · City and Borough of Juneau

KK

Katie Kestler

Pending

City Manager · City and Borough of Juneau

LD

Leah Domke

Pending

Research Fish Biologist · NOAA Fisheries

LM

Logan Miller

Pending

Lawyer · Alaska Legal Services

LS

Lori Soa

Pending

Chief Research and Strategy Officer · Alaska Electric Light and Power

LN

Lydia Ness

Pending

Senior Associate · Cascadia Partners

MT

Megan Tabachek

Pending

Executive Director · Trail Mix

MM

Minta Montalbo

Pending

Planner · Community Development, CBJ

SC

Scott Chambore

Pending

Planning Manager · Community Development Department (CDD)

TS

Tari Stage-Harvey

Pending

Pastor · Shepherd of the Valley Lutheran Church